graybeard Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Hi again y'all If I found a dark red or an orange mason stain (I think that is what they call the powder they mix with brick mortar) And mixed it with a white clay would a glaze that looks great on terracotta claylook ABOUT the same? Would a under glaze work? I just make too much of a mess when I work with terracotta. graybeard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 SO what makes you think you'll work cleaner with stained clay?? Will end up much more expensive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bciskepottery Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Why not just make a terra-cotta colored slip and apply it to your white vessels, then glaze? Wedging in a stain to the clay body is a lot of work; slips are less so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzine Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Why not just make a terra-cotta colored slip and apply it to your white vessels, then glaze? Wedging in a stain to the clay body is a lot of work; slips are less so. Yeah, this seems like the best option. I don't seem working stain into the clay, then throwing, as a less messy option. Applying a colored slip would be way easier, and less messy. Underglaze would be just as easy, and can be applied at any stage of dryness. The only downside to underglaze is they are more expensive than a colored slip, which you can easily make yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcia Selsor Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 I love terra cotta. I don't find it messy. I love the building power in a good groggy terra cotta. If you was the color , I agree, just add the mason stain. Marcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rae Reich Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 I thought Mason Stains were named for a person named Mason (John Mason?). Isn't terra cotta color mainly RIOx? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Campbell Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 I don't know what you mean by messy .... or how a different version of red clay would be less messy. Could you explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiselleNo5 Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 I love terra cotta. I don't find it messy. I love the building power in a good groggy terra cotta. If you was the color , I agree, just add the mason stain. Marcia I have a deep dark iron red clay from Laguna and it is soooooo messy, I have to have a Hawaiian Red week then wash everything. But oh, I love that clay. I adore it more every time I use it. Nothing ever cracks, splits or separates. I can re-wet it infinitely and keep working on it. Love that clay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberta12 Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 I agree with Giselle. It really is fun, I use SB Red by Laguna on occasion. I love how some of my glazes look on that dark clay body. And it is fun to work with. But....gotta scrub everything afterward and slowly morph my way back to white clay. But it does stain my hands........ Roberta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Campbell Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 I know that feeling exactly ... I take a break from porcelain and just have so much fun with a luscious, groggy clay body that just does what it is supposed to do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiselleNo5 Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 I agree with Giselle. It really is fun, I use SB Red by Laguna on occasion. I love how some of my glazes look on that dark clay body. And it is fun to work with. But....gotta scrub everything afterward and slowly morph my way back to white clay. But it does stain my hands........ Roberta Roberta, try throwing one white pot after you're done with the red. It gets rid of 90% of the stain. My friend figured that out and it really does work. I know that feeling exactly ... I take a break from porcelain and just have so much fun with a luscious, groggy clay body that just does what it is supposed to do! Yessss. No babying it along. Love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlady Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 used red iron oxide in a glaze this weekend. used it last because of the mess. needed three towels, two after i had washed my hands and arms with Dawn. the red did not leave until i shampooed my hair. red brown clay is fun, just messy............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Or is it just more visible and the white dust et is there in same quantities but you're just not seeing it???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Or is it just more visible and the white dust et is there in same quantities but you're just not seeing it???? Babs, I think you've nailed it. It is there just invisible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callie Beller Diesel Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 In college there was a clay body recipe that a few people used that had 5% red iron oxide added to it. It was a.maz.ing. In any kind of wood/soda atmosphere, but it looked like there was a serial killer loose while it was being used on the wheel. I think adding any kind of stain or oxide like that to a clay would probably be messier than the terra cotta. A slip would likely be less invasive in your studio. And having made the switch in the last year from a white stoneware to a red, I think Babs's observation is quite correct. I've been mopping more regularly in the last few months because I can see the residue better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlady Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 the difference is in the wrinkles in my skin. red goes deep and stays there until forced to leave. the white is there but gives up more easily. what gets on the surfaces of the studio is much more work if it is red iron oxide based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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