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Joseph Fireborn

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  1. From my testing with SiC. I found that the best results required glazes with good melts. Shino is a stiffer glaze usually, at least all the shino's that I liked. Usually, the SiC just made it bubble and didn't produce any visible reduction that I could see. I was using a 1200 mesh SiC. 

    However this doesn't mean it isn't possible, it just might take a lot of testing to get some results, so be prepared to go down a rabbit hole.

    If I was going to approach this again, I would use a currie grid for the shino recipe you wanted to try, then I would add a tiny amount of SiC to each cup and do another grid, and repeat this process 2-3 times. Then I would fire those tiles and look for any signs of reduction and try to figure out which combination of flux, clay, silica starts to get the best results. Then proceed from there.

    Anywho! Good luck and please post any positive results you get!

  2. I just read this entire thread. Good to see that you sold all types of pots at all types of prices @shawnhar . I have posted my opinions on this before, but I believe that work should be priced higher as you gain skill and your craft improves until a point that your new gains in skill don't make enough of a difference to justify price changes without an increase in demand. If all of the sudden you make leaps and bounds again then prices should move up again if there is demand for the new skill gained aesthetically. 

    My first mugs/yunomi were 20-25$, however, my new mugs/yunomi are $40-50. Selling my new work for the same price as my old work would be absolutely foolish as the work is more desired and takes more time. I also think that is a very important factor in pricing. If you can make pots quickly then you can afford to price them lower, but only if there is enough of a demand for them at that price.

    I started pottery in 2014, so this will be my 5th year anniversary coming up.

    This year is going to be the first time in my pottery journey that I am going to try to make pots and sell pots for profit long term. In the past, I have just made a spurt of pots as a progression milestone and sold them to see what the demand was like for that type of design/aesthetic. So far I have been successful with my aesthetic choices and progressions that have allowed me to continue raising prices. Another thing that I believe should be a factor in your work is how unique the type of work you make is. If no one else is doing similar things to what you are doing then again you can charge more for your work. There is a good reason that potters continue to advance their work and narrow down their aesthetic. It's that uniqueness that allows them to gain market demand and increase prices because of that demand until they can supply the right amount of pots for the right amount of buyers. In the end, I don't think pricing is that difficult, if you have enough eyes going over your pots for sale then you will quickly be able to raise and lower prices until you find a sweet spot that you are happy with physically. 

    John Baymore always said something like: Sell 1000 pots for 1$, 10 for $100, or 1 for $1000. The choice is yours.

    The option is available to do any of those things, which choice you decide to do is totally up to you and how hard you work and the design choices that you make along the way.


  3. I would also add that wearing something that can break and slice your finger open is probably not a good idea. I don't wear rings anyways because of the danger they pose in everyday life much less one that could break apart and be razor sharp. I would have a really hard time selling something that could potentially hurt someone very badly. Just think about all the times you have smashed your finger or something now think about a super sharp ring also breaking and cutting into your finger. :blink:


  4. 45 minutes ago, billbill said:

    well....sooo many views , ive no idea yet were to start. but thanks all, i will work it out

    some good advice here

    What do you mean you have no idea where to start?

    1. Decide what cone you're firing.

    2. Find a base glaze recipe that takes colorants and stains well at that cone.

    3. Test this base on your clay body for durability and satisfaction.

    4. Start doing color blends with various colorants and stains for the color you need.

    5. Scale up the test results to the pots you are wanting to use those glazes on.

    6. Fire multiple tests and increase batch glaze size along with the test sizes.

    7. Glaze all your pots in the final version of the glaze that you decided on and tested thoroughly.

    8. Profit.

  5. Just pulled this out of the kiln. One of my better pots with this decoration style.


    Figured I would share in the joy of posting stuff on workbench! Waiting on the rest of the load to cool so I can see all the rest of it. Hopefully more as good as this one. It is nice to get a little reward before I take a long pottery break yet again to study. Hopefully I will have time to get back out in the garage and get some more work made!

  6. Just use a mason stain for the green color, problem solved. There have been tons of discussions about stains here in the past. It is pretty much decided that the way they are made keeps all the "bad" from getting out, as long as your glaze base is stable in the first place.


    Just take your clear and start experimenting with some green stain amounts and it will give you a starting point.

    I don't see the issue with copper personally, but I don't want to derail the thread into a safety of copper discussion.

  7. Before even thinking about it as a career you should spend at least a year minimum with almost all your free time working on your craft. Running a business of any sort is difficult, particularly with no previous business training. I can't imagine trying to run a pottery business while learning to be a potter. Sounds like a nightmare. Pottery is probably one of the hardest hobbies I have ever had, and I have had a lot of hobbies :blink:. Still to this day I am unsure of how things will turn out and it can be a nightmare when you open a kiln full of things you were planning on making money with that are just not right.

    With that being said it is also one of the most rewarding things I have ever done in my life. Creating something that people will use every day and that becomes a part of their daily routine is just fantastic. If you spend a lot of time on your craft and you excel, the selling part just comes naturally. People will want your stuff, and you will know when it is time to sell it. Don't listen anyone who says, hey you could sell this! Those people are morons, no offense those people. Only you know when your making a good product that is ready to sell, because it will be something that happens once you have enough experience. When I first started here, I posted videos of myself throwing, I posted pots cut in half, and I asked questions relentlessly. The people here are happy to help in any way possible as long as you are upfront about what your after and have a bit of skin in the game of learning, we will help. 

    If your goal is to throw pots on the wheel, the best advice I can give on learning is to just get a wheel as fast as you can. If you have to work extra hours for a month to save up to buy a wheel, do it. That will just prove your commitment to how much you want to work as a potter. You won't really make any leaps and bounds learning to throw pots until you have your own wheel. You need 10+ hours a week to get to where you need to be to even make decent pieces. Just as an example I bought a wheel and 100#'s of clay and I threw the same exact same bowl shape for 6 months before I was happy with a rather crappy bowl at the time looking back now. But just being able to throw every single chance I had free time, and then ball those pots up and let them dry up a bit and re-wedge them gave me tons of confidence to know that I could be a potter.

    Just an interesting story: 

    I went to a talk by a master potter who had been throwing for 30+ years, the translator asked him a question from the audience which was, "Do you think you are very good at throwing those types of pots?" The master potter instantly shook his head no, as if he knew he still had a lot to learn.  He truly felt this way, you could see it on his face. I think the more you learn in this field the more you realize how much you don't know. 

    Best of luck to you, and make sure you get on and post lots of questions as you learn, don't be shy, put all ego aside and focus on only learning.

  8. My workbench is empty! Well besides all the non pottery related junk on it. I just pulled out some of the best yunomi I have ever made in my entire life. So that was epic. I am going to make 6 bowls to donate to the Patsiliga kiln in south Georgia, its a big woodfired kiln. I have never been a part of the wood firing, but I would like to be one day. I like supporting stuff like that anyways. I am going to go to the bowl event and deliver my bowls and maybe even buy someone else's work. I might post the bowls after I have slipped them with black crackle slip, and maybe after the kiln as well, since this seems like a progress type of thread! 

    I am glad everyone is still here rocking away. Good to be back even if its only for a few weeks.


  9. I usually listen to a bit of techno or trance music with very little words. However lately I have been listening to Fantastic Negrito.  

    You have to really be in the mood to make the pots that you make with this stuff playing. It definitely alters the forms you make if you really let it get to you.



    just a bonus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ws-GZVAj20 - no one knows who wrote this though.


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