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neilestrick

Member Since 04 Oct 2011
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In Topic: Making A Extremely Low Shrink Clay?

Today, 02:39 PM

Many flameware bodies have little to no shrinkage. Using lithium as a flux will accomplish this. Google 'flameware bodies' and you'll find some recipes to test.


In Topic: Replace Frit 3134 With Gerstly Borate

Today, 11:08 AM

Joel; perhaps a touch of soda ash would fill in that blank.

Nerd

 

Since soda ash is soluble it won't behave the same.


In Topic: Amaco Crystallex Glazes

Today, 11:05 AM

They'll work fine at cone 6, they'll just flow a little more. 


In Topic: L&l Kiln Or Skutt?

Yesterday, 11:27 AM

What ever you do do not buy an L&L kiln. I have one and will never own another L&L product again. It is unbelievably poorly built. Even with the heavy duty elements my e28T-3-240 CANNOT get to cone 6 when fully loaded. I bought it for a glaze kiln but only use it to bisque and even at that I use only 3 levels. I just purchased their kiln wall replacement kit. I followed the directions, put my pieces of kiln wall in place and there was no adhesion whatsoever. I did it again, using more moisture. Seemed to work. I fired the kiln, as per instructions and the pieces had fallen out. Utterly useless. The control box is mounted off kilter, the kiln arrived with cracks everywhere and in fact the entire piece is a piece of crap. I also have a Skutt and a Cone Art kiln and they are both great. My next purchase will be a Skutt PK kiln. I cannot condemn sufficiently the L&L products. They disgust me.

 

Yes, L&L does admit that the E28T is underpowered, and they are very clear about it in all of their literature. That said, I have many customers who fire their E28T to cone 6 every week with no problems. They are on 240V single phase power, and even though it's a cone 8 kiln, it handles cone 6 just fine. There's obviously something going on with your specific kiln, or you're loading it with very dense loads which it just can't handle. It's also possible that you have a low service voltage problem or something like that. I'd be happy to work with you to try to figure out the problem. What year was your kiln made?

 

This is not just an L&L issue, though. Any 28x28 inch kiln that only pulls 48 amps, whether it's an L&L or Skutt or Paragon or whatever, will only be rated for cone 8 at 240V 1 phase service, or cone 5 at 208V 1 phase. These models are all part of their 'plug and play' series', where you don't have to hard wire them. Anything over 50 amps has to be hard wired. The L&L E28T and the Skutt KM1227 have the exact same temperature ratings.

 

If you want more power in a large kiln like that, you'll need to go up to an 80 amp breaker, which requires hard wiring. All brands offer higher power models like that. The Skutt PK is one example, but all brands make higher powered models. And you can't compare a Skutt PK to an L&L E28T or Skutt KM1227. That's apples to oranges.


In Topic: Skutt or L&L?

Yesterday, 11:25 AM

Whatever you do do not buy an L&L. They are utter crap. My e28-t can't get to cone 6 with four levels (fully loaded) even with the heavy duty elements. It is under powered and they admit this themselves. I spent months on the phone with their tech support person, who stutters trying to figure out why the kiln wasn't firing correctly. Turned out it simply can't. I just purchased their kiln wall replacement kit. Followed the directions strictly and nothing adhered. I called and got some suggestions, re-did it with more moisture, fired the kiln as per instructions and when I opened it the pieces had fallen out. If there is one thing L&L knows how to do it is to build crap. The control box was mounted visibly crooked, it arrived with cracks everywhere and is so far inferior to my other 2 kilns (Skutt and Cone Art) that should my life depend upon it I will never purchase an L&L product again. Skutt is everything I want in a kiln and in a company. Though a bit cool, their tech support is great. My next kiln will be a Skutt PK kiln.

 

Yes, L&L does admit that the E28T is underpowered, and they are very clear about it in all of their literature. That said, I have many customers who fire their E28T to cone 6 every week with no problems. They are on 240V single phase power, and even though it's a cone 8 kiln, it handles cone 6 just fine. There's obviously something going on with your specific kiln, or you're loading it with very dense loads which it just can't handle. It's also possible that you have a low service voltage problem or something like that. I'd be happy to work with you to try to figure out the problem. What year was your kiln made?

 

This is not just an L&L issue, though. Any 28x28 inch kiln that only pulls 48 amps, whether it's an L&L or Skutt or Paragon or whatever, will only be rated for cone 8 at 240V 1 phase service, or cone 5 at 208V 1 phase. These models are all part of their 'plug and play' series', where you don't have to hard wire them. Anything over 50 amps has to be hard wired. The L&L E28T and the Skutt KM1227 have the exact same temperature ratings.

 

If you want more power in a large kiln like that, you'll need to go up to an 80 amp breaker, which requires hard wiring. All brands offer higher power models like that. The Skutt PK is one example, but all brands make higher powered models. And you can't compare a Skutt PK to an L&L E28T or Skutt KM1227. That's apples to oranges.