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Mudslinger Ceramics

Member Since 16 Apr 2010
Offline Last Active Aug 17 2014 11:20 PM
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In Topic: To Share Or Not To Share

27 July 2014 - 05:32 AM

 

So when does copying happen between professionals?

 

It doesn't happen.  Because if one is copying in that fashion....... there is only one professional present. B)

 

best,

 

.......................john

 

 

Ah John, you just made my day!....my vanity is soothed a little after the last weeks......

 

Min, Mea, ...I'm in your camp.......I believe in sharing most but not all.....and I learnt this from my son when he was 4!!

 

My son's little friend would come to play at our house and like a dutiful mum I told my son to share his toys, 2hours and the all contents of the toy box in backyard later his favourite toy lay in pieces, many tears and a trip to the toy store replaced the tip truck,

 

The next time he comes the friend wants the truck again and at first I said yes....but as I watched I noticed the little friend keeping the truck to himself and denying my increasingly stressed son access to it while ignoring all the other toys available, he wanted it because he sensed it was my son's favourite....knew I had made a mistake....

 

during their lunch I put away the truck, they came back to the yard asked about it and then got on with playing together with all the other toys.....after that I would always ask my son to put away any really special toy and openly share the rest and we didn't have the same competitive issue again.....

 

As a potter I have learnt to share almost but not all as well, I worked exceptionally hard to develop my signature work and I don't have to give it away just because someone else wants it, especially when they intend to directly compete with me,....... yet having said that I teach and give away everything else which can be quite a lot!! ........have had the  lazy, rude, selfish etc people Chris mentions many times and they're not fun at all

 

So for me I think it's good to share....LOTS! but not all.... at least not until I'm ready to publish it!

 

Irene


In Topic: Inspiration?

18 July 2014 - 11:08 PM

Am naturally inspired heaps by other ceramic artists work but also by printmakers, papermakers, painters, sculptors, textiles, Japanese sand gardens, Ikabana flower arrangements, Korean tableware, Chinese calligraphy, Art Nouveau jewellery, beaches, water, pate de verre glass, plants, micro organisms, astronomy etc, etc...............it will be a colour, a shape, an approach to an unfamiliar medium, a concept, a social issue.....the choice is honestly diverse and limitless

 

I try and synthesise what I see, touch or feel into my own responsive interpretation using the ceramic and mixed media materials and processes that I love and think best express my response to that inspiration.

 

Without a broad curiosity, study and analysis of those things that inspire me I become creatively blocked, limited and repetitive..........horrible!!

 

Irene


In Topic: 10 Cool Trends In Contemporary Ceramics

18 July 2014 - 10:46 PM

I have been riding along this post for several days, thinking about various viewpoints. ...what makes a trend, who defines what, the role in art criticism that provides verbal skill as a stand in for pieces being able to speak by themselves without linguistic interpretation....

Then, I thought about how many art/ceramic students I've met over time, and how I am frequently amazed by their profound lack of technical skill, and simultaneously dumbfounded by their gift of opinionated description. To date, I have met three technically skilled individuals: two trained at Alfred, the other ignored all advice until given the degree that allowed them to go make and sell pottery. These thoughts are not unique.

Today it occurred to me: this stuff does represent a trend, perhaps. People who graduate from art schools are not learning solid technical skills. They are taught how to wax on verbally about "eh" work.

I understand the place for verbal skill. After all, the art critic of Artnews needs a job. But the abstraction of "pointed, political edge" from the work highlighted in the "anti ceramic mush" section seems to prove my point of b.s. making the art have a story that a nonverbal viewer would NEVER create themselves. I realize that story sells the art, but doesn't it seem reasonable that skilled artists strive to make technically proficient art that can stand without the artist or critic explaining it for the viewer?

Thus my proposed trend: language substitutes for skill in ceramic arts?

(Water buckets ready ;o)

 

drmyrtle, you make me smile.......studied my undergrad at my first college that was all about skills, materials, processes, experimentation etc by local and international practicing potters, the idea of 'learn to make a 'good' pot first before you go off with all your ideas'...

 

did not understand how grateful I would be for the solid foundational training I was given until I went to my first post grad in a college renowned for its contemporary approach..... standing at the photocopier in the post grad room I see a PhD student copying passages of a book on contemporary Chinese ceramics, so to start a conversation, I said hello and commented on the work she was studying and asked her about what kind of ceramics she liked to make.......the look on her face!...... you''d think I had just spat on the floor!!

 

"I don't MAKE ceramics,'she said 'I STUDY ceramics. If you want to make ceramics then you go to a technical college.' She picks up her bits and leaves the room!   I was stunned both by her rudeness and by the concept that you could 'study'ceramics to PhD level and seemingly not MAKE/MADE any!!??   It was my first close up experience with the truly ''all icing/no cake'' defensive nonsense some conceptual artists operate by....

 

the kicker to this story is that the head of ceramics department was retiring the year later and she, as the only graduating PhD student that yea,r secured the job!    

She has been head of ceramics for 8 years but to this day I still don't really know what her oeuver actually is!

 

drmyrtle, maybe I'm conservative and old fashioned with my 'skills first 'approach, but I'm with you on your 'trend ': language substitutes for skill in many quarters of the (ceramic) arts field statement!!

 

Irene


In Topic: Mixing Black Clay Body - Cone 10 - Need Expertise

14 July 2014 - 06:14 AM

I do mix several of my own clay bodies and I don't forget the recipies because I WRITE THEM DOWN! in my technical journal,

so I disagree with the majority here...

 

...if he wanted to genuinely share his recipie for this clay body then he could have checked his OWN records...

 

...if he gave the recipie 'off the top of his head' then he is responsible for the omissions he forgot...

 

...if he did not want to really share the recipie after all then he could have kept his mouth shut!......and sent you to the internet, CAD or the college library to find your own information which would have rightly left you with all the responsibility for the setbacks

 

I have had several lecturers and instructors over the years and I did believe them and tried all they would teach, but to be fair to teachers I didn't commit 45kgs of work all at once. I was usually testing anyway so I'd toss a few things in each load or else fire up my small electric kiln overnight because I am way too impatient to wait 4-6 weeks to see a result.

 

Shame about your experience but the lesson is learnt and will be good to see your final results.

 

Irene


In Topic: Non-Legal Ways To Address Copying Issue

14 July 2014 - 05:24 AM

Sell the formulas.

 

...or sell hers to China!