cbarnes Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 I'd like to paint the bottom of my pieces as I don't care for the bare clay look. however I'm firing to cone 5 so I cant use stilts. I've been using Amaco Velvet underglaze which works somewhat but I still get some kiln wash on the piece. any suggestions??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugaboo Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 You can try using Red Iron Oxide to give it a wash of color. It won't stick to the shelves like underglaze can. If you kiln wash your shelves and use underglaze and a piece sticks you can usually use a Dremel and just touch the piece with it and have it come off leaving either no Mark or a very tiny one. Contrary to popular belief you can use stilts with cone 5-6. You just have to buy high fire stilts. Go to Clayking.com and look at their offerings. I fire to cone 6 and stilt just about everything. The stuff I don't stilt I usually put on little bisque wafers. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 I suggest Not painting the bottom . Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humboldt Potter Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 As a cone 10 person, it sounds kind of funny to me to glaze the bottom of pieces. I've never glazed the bottoms. I do, however, make enough of a foot so that I can glaze inside of the foot, leaving only the bottom of the foot unglazed porcelain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elaine clapper Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Maybe try a different clay? You might like a clay that fires to a buff color rather than white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Campbell Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 My dumb question is why can't you use stilts at Cone 5 ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pres Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 You can use stilts at cone 5 if you use the ceramic tricorner stilts. I would not use wire stilts, but the ceramic ones should work. I used them all the time with kids work, and sometimes my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 The ceramic tricorners break off at the tips and you will need to grind the three points-on a technical side after the glaze fire. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbarnes Posted April 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Thank you for the input. I think i'll try doing a different foot at the bottom that will look more appealing and not painting the base. maybe try another clay as suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbarnes Posted April 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 My dumb question is why can't you use stilts at Cone 5 ?? I was told a larger piece would warp. I'm making platters and large bowls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugaboo Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 For larger pieces I still like to glaze all the way to the bottom line so very little or no bare clay is visible. Doing this means I can't just set them on the shelf so I have a bunch of bisque clay discs in different sizes that I place under the piece so that they don't touch any glaze but support the bottom of the pieces almost entirely. I have had no warping issues doing it this way. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 For larger pieces I still like to glaze all the way to the bottom line so very little or no bare clay is visible. Doing this means I can't just set them on the shelf so I have a bunch of bisque clay discs in different sizes that I place under the piece so that they don't touch any glaze but support the bottom of the pieces almost entirely. I have had no warping issues doing it this way. T +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 I have Roselli stilts. They can be fired to 2400*. I only use them when absolutely necessary cause with that much movement at higher temps, I have had things warp. I mainly use them when the grand kids get a little to ambitious with their painting. And also I have painted the bottoms with an underglaze that closely matches the glaze color. Amaco velvets will go to cone 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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