gkillmaster Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Hi, For a lot of pottery, I prefer the look of reduction. I just found out the possibility of using electric kilns to do reduction firings? I had no idea about this. I would love to know more. Like, does the result resemble using a gas kiln? Does the firing reduce the life of the elements? Does it produce toxic fumes? What is the best way to accomplish this? etc.. etc... many thanks, Greg K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmism Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 start here http://community.ceramicartsdaily.org/topic/6009-firing-organic-additions-to-clay/?hl=elements&do=findComment&comment=56328 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JBaymore Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 From the title of this thread...... I want to reply : "Ab-so -lutly nothin'. Say it agin ya-all. " (Only the old folks might get this . Yes reduction electrics are VERY common in Japan. Yes, it takes life off the elements.... but that is the "cost of doing business". Compared to building the typical gas kiln........ an electric reduction kiln is cheaper and easier to get inot places you can't get a gas kiln. Yes they produce the same potential of CO and other byproducts of partial combustion (aldehydes, etc.). You need far better venting than the typical "Orton Kiln Vent" kind of ventilation. They just don't produce it in the same volume or at the same temperature as fuel fired kiln. Possibilities for fuel include charcoal, wood, propane, butane or natural gas. (DON'T follow the frequent recommendation for using mothballs!!!!!) best, .............................john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Firing in reduction is an aesthetic choice. It makes no difference in functionality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Bridge Pottery Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darcy Kane Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 From the title of this thread...... I want to reply : "Ab-so -lutly nothin'. Say it agin ya-all. " (Only the old folks might get this . Got it, loved it, and killed a few brain cells listening to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkillmaster Posted April 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 start here http://community.ceramicartsdaily.org/topic/6009-firing-organic-additions-to-clay/?hl=elements&do=findComment&comment=56328 thanks schmism! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkillmaster Posted April 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 From the title of this thread...... I want to reply : "Ab-so -lutly nothin'. Say it agin ya-all. " (Only the old folks might get this . Yes reduction electrics are VERY common in Japan. Yes, it takes life off the elements.... but that is the "cost of doing business". Compared to building the typical gas kiln........ an electric reduction kiln is cheaper and easier to get inot places you can't get a gas kiln. Yes they produce the same potential of CO and other byproducts of partial combustion (aldehydes, etc.). You need far better venting than the typical "Orton Kiln Vent" kind of ventilation. They just don't produce it in the same volume or at the same temperature as fuel fired kiln. Possibilities for fuel include charcoal, wood, propane, butane or natural gas. (DON'T follow the frequent recommendation for using mothballs!!!!!) best, .............................john wow, thanks JBaymore for so much information with so few words. Yeh, the subject name is exactly what was going through my head when I posted! Never imagined anyone would pick up on it... WAR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkillmaster Posted April 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Firing in reduction is an aesthetic choice. It makes no difference in functionality. Exactly my feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkillmaster Posted April 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 From the title of this thread...... I want to reply : "Ab-so -lutly nothin'. Say it agin ya-all. " (Only the old folks might get this . Got it, loved it, and killed a few brain cells listening to it Inspires me to write a song that good for modern times. But that's what "Killing in the Name" was for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkillmaster Posted April 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Great! thanks a lot. Love the short music segues!! haha. very enlightening... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 From the title of this thread...... I want to reply : "Ab-so -lutly nothin'. Say it agin ya-all. " (Only the old folks might get this . best, .............................john My uncle Terry was their roadie...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biglou13 Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 For the younger set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Just sticking to your question -reduction what is it good for Well that's an easy one it makes my colors snappy and brilliant in a reduction kiln I makes my pots stand out so folks want to by them It has made my life as a potter successful It all starts with a reduction kiln and the right glazes. It not like paint as it's always different and that's what the best part is. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFallon Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 I purchased a gas kiln for the express purpose of reduction firing Shino glazes after I was introduced to them. It is my perferred glaze and firing method. On another note..because of the size of my gas kiln, and my production / "second job" cycle, I can only fill the kiln 3-4 times per year. When I saw the video, my thought was TEST kiln for reduction firing! I have two small electric kilns. One is manual, and one has a non-functioning programmer.Besides venting issues, what pitfalls might one consider when converting one of these kilns? (This question might be better as a new thread...but I'm not sure what the etiquette is to start on) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzine Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 John, I think you underestimate the younger generations. I totally got that reference. Though I'm not quite as young anymore, and that seems to be even more true each year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JBaymore Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Benzine, I'm guessing that for you that is an "oldie". For me it was a "newie". best, ..............john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzine Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Benzine, I'm guessing that for you that is an "oldie". For me it was a "newie". best, ..............john Yes indeed John. I remember a few years back, a student called a song "old". I told them, it wasn't old, it came out in said specific year. They responded, "I wasn't even born yet.". I then shook my fist at them, and proceeded to collect all the Frisbees that landed on my property, and hide out in my house... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaria Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Did you shout "Get off my lawn"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzine Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Did you shout "Get off my lawn"? Naturally, and the word "Whippersnapper" was also used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darcy Kane Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 I purchased a gas kiln for the express purpose of reduction firing Shino glazes after I was introduced to them. It is my perferred glaze and firing method. On another note..because of the size of my gas kiln, and my production / "second job" cycle, I can only fill the kiln 3-4 times per year. When I saw the video, my thought was TEST kiln for reduction firing! I have two small electric kilns. One is manual, and one has a non-functioning programmer.Besides venting issues, what pitfalls might one consider when converting one of these kilns? (This question might be better as a new thread...but I'm not sure what the etiquette is to start on) Go to youtube and put in "convert electric kiln to gas." The truth is out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JBaymore Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Did you shout "Get off my lawn"? Actually he said, "Hey you, get off'a my lawn." (Picture Mick's voice) best, .................john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFallon Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 Dharsi, others, That was a "duh" forehead slap moment. Of course instructions / information relative to converting an electric kiln are available via YouTube. It must have been all these references to late 60's, culture revolution songs that I had my brain forgetting the Internet even existed!!!!! Peace out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 The sixties have a lasting effect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bciskepottery Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 The sixties have a lasting effect... Some call them "flashbacks". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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