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#1 Dharsi

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 10:42 PM

So I have joined the journey from ^10 to ^6.  So far so good with the porcelain but today I tried Standard 266 and my goodness that stuff is D A R K.  All I could think of as I was throwing it was what a pain it was going to be to clean and that I should be making flower pots  :)  It throws nicely and I like working with it, but it leaves me wondering what glaze I will use on it.  Anyone that has used it, does it bleed through glazes? Does it look good with clear over it?  Anyone care to weigh in?  



#2 Biglou13

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Posted 05 April 2014 - 10:46 PM

I love 266 it's a dream to,work,with.

Some of my best finishes include: slip decorated (hakame-ish)then clear, my cone 6 shino (ish),
just clear. I used a translucent dark green.very sexy!

I've even grog it up for more flavor

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 07:31 AM

I enjoy using Standard 266 as well! Had to change my Bisque speed to slow(Skutt digital) to allow out gassing which had created bloats in previous pieces in the glaze firing. After that change, there seems to be no problem with bloating. Here is one of my pieces and one of the glazes I use.
Yunomi & Bowl-Opulence White gloss

I have also used:
-Standard 1194-Bright Red Gloss
-Opulence Antique Iron
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Posted 06 April 2014 - 09:43 AM

I like rutile blues on 266, also iron reds. Have not had good luck with clears, though.

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 09:18 PM

I haven' used the 266 but use the 211-hazelnut brown. With this one I am using more white slip and working with Oatmeal and white glazes. I am looking at trying some iron red glazes on it as I think they may be stunning Iron red reactive. Only experimenting will tell.


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Posted 07 April 2014 - 09:36 AM

It is a total nightmare to clean up. Once you think things are clean, a film of red will form as they dry, over and over and over. But it's a dream to throw and beautiful when done. Just be aware that it is not typical of most cone 6 clays in regard to glazes. Lots of testing is in order. That clay can do nasty things to some glazes. In my studio we tend to use it raw a lot, with just a liner glaze.


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Posted 07 April 2014 - 08:17 PM

We were just talking about 266 the other day at our local pottery meeting -- the studio started doing bisque firing at ^05 rather than ^06 because otherwise the 266 would bloat during the ^6 firing. The hotter bisque prevents the bloating.



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Posted 07 April 2014 - 08:33 PM

We were just talking about 266 the other day at our local pottery meeting -- the studio started doing bisque firing at ^05 rather than ^06 because otherwise the 266 would bloat during the ^6 firing. The hotter bisque prevents the bloating.

 

I bisque at 04 and still get bloating at 6. I never fire it past 5.


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#9 Dharsi

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 09:30 PM

Personally I am done with it after I work up this 50 pounds.  What a mess and I'm not a messy thrower.  I had to scrub everything off so I could use my space again.  Oh well, every day is a new adventure.  I guess for now I will stick to the Standard 365 that reminds me of the Hampton River clam flats on a hot day in July  :)



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 09:06 AM

I've enjoyed the 266 along with the others who replied. Yes, it is difficult going from 266 to a white clay - the cleanup is never thorough enough! 

 

I would recommend testing a few pieces first; my experience with throwing mugs ended up with several shrinking so much that they turned into "espresso cups".... I glazed with Potter's Choice inside and halfway down the outside and handle....left the lower half outside unglazed since the clay cooks to a handsome dark brown.

 

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 09:07 AM

Standard 630 is a really nice clay if you're looking for a cone 6 stoneware. It fires white, has some fireclay for just a little tooth. We also use a lot of #112 in my studio. One of the best throwing brown clays I've ever used.


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Posted 08 April 2014 - 11:35 AM

I have gone through phases of using 266 extensively.  The comments about testing glazes are spot on.  It does some weird stuff.  I find bright blues and shinos do well with it.  I have an oatmeal glaze that turns a nasty burnt blue over 266.  I also use it without glaze as someone mentioned, since it's so nice bare.

 

I appreciate the comments about the bisque firing; I've had some bloat bubbles and hadn't experimented enough to figure out why.

 

Edited because I forgot to add that I usually use a lighter brown clay after using 266 before I use any white clay.  And boy does it turn your hands and fingernails orange for a few days!



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 11:49 AM

I've been wanting to try this stuff for months now, but when I went to my supplier to get some the last time, he was out, and I haven't had a chance to go back yet. I'm glad I got a chance to read some of your experiences with it beforehand, now!

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 11:50 AM

#266 is one of my favorite clays, it glazes like a dream. I like it with Coyote Eggshell, Mayco cinnabar, Kentucky Mudworks Melted Butter. It is also beautiful unglazed.

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 07:29 PM

I love this clay to
But I'm nervous using. Because people here scared me out of it due to the manganese dioxide dangers......
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Posted 08 April 2014 - 07:42 PM

I love this clay to
But I'm nervous using. Because people here scared me out of it due to the manganese dioxide dangers......

 

I've discussed this with the techs at Standard. The percentage of manganese is low enough that it passes non-toxic certification for the raw clay. If I remember right it's around 2%. As long as you're smart about dust and kiln venting you shouldn't need to worry. You're much more likely to be inhaling silica dust than manganese dust.


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 06:54 PM

Neil I love throwing the 112. It is a great throwing clay, and the specks are good under almost any glaze. However, I ordered the 225 for school, as I did not want the school clay and my clay to be the same. The school clay(225) did not have the manganese, but was essentially the 112. Both throw extremely well and look good under most glazes. As to vitrification, they are both ^4-6 have 12.5% shrinkage and 2.5 absorption at ^6. A little high by some standards, but they have never acted poorly and I have mugs that have gone through numerous dishwasher loads and still holding up very well.


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 07:25 PM

Is the 112 as much fun to clean up as the 266? I'll definitely try the 630.  I am resisting the strong urge to go back to the cone 10 clay and glazes I know.  



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Posted 12 April 2014 - 12:18 AM

112 & 225 act and look a lot like a high fire stoneware body. light tan in color, decent glaze response, and great to throw or hand build with. I used the 225 with my beginning classes and the level 2 throwing classes. Works well for most everything.


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Posted 12 April 2014 - 08:39 AM

No, the 112 and 225 are not anywhere near as messy as the 266.


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