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Biglou13    202

Ok here's my go at it.

The clay body is porcelaineous, appears that it fit. ... Broke,at bottom not a lot of texture on cup. I lowered the Li a bit to 5

 

I expected more rust and less oatmeal....?

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Pres    896

You may try double dipping with a thinner glaze consistency. Sometimes I find that adds more variation in surface. I notice you also dip your pots with your finger tips holding it upside down. ;)

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Biglou13    202

Since I'm double dipping, should I thin glaze or just put on thicker coat. I first pour glaze into cup, the pour out and dip. So the interior and lip often get a slightly thicker coating . In this case still little to no rust.

 

Yes I like the japanese technique of dipping and leaving finger marks. And many who have drank from my cups are warming to idea also. I like to see and feel the clay. It s part of the whole and feel like some is lost covered by glaze.

 

I'm not a big fan of waxing

 

I'll try thicker application today,

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cracked pot    7

My Fall's Creek Shino is ^6 and looks quite different depending on the clay body and thickness of application.  I mostly brush on my glazes but do thin them when I am dipping.

 

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Biglou13    202

I'll check my recipe

Mine looks like too much opacfiers

It's also on finicky porcelain

Would the drop in Li Change things that much

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bciskepottery    925

You seem to get more variation in color on the bottom portion by your fingers. When you dip an item, the first part in gets a thicker coat of glaze because it is submerged longer than the last part.

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Babs    385

I think it is the glaze thickness, rust where thin, oatmeal where the applicaation is thicker. Sacralige, spelling doesn't look right,  to suggest glazing tongs, in out fast?? Thin the glaze? dampen the pot?

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Biglou13    202

Ty back to more testing

1. Brushing

2. Thin glaze , dip

3. Thicker application

4. Wax and dip

5. Dampen pot.

 

Ps I even adjusted this glaze to 1.5 specific gravity, followed by finger an slotted spoon test.

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deborah.    11

I know the falls creek shino really, really well. It's one of the favorite glazes my studio works with, and I've used it myself hundreds of times. It's the clay body that (mainly) causes the color change. It's always creamy/oatmeally on white clays. On anything darker, it's great. The first picture is using a really dark clay (Standard's 266), the second is using a porcelain with a dark slip decoration, and the last is Standard's Hazelnut clay (312, I think) with a green glaze over the top. All the pieces have the same thickness of glaze. On the darker clays, a thicker application can lighten up the glaze, but it always is creamy on the white clays no matter how thin of a coat you apply.

 

Hope this helped some,

Deborah

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Biglou13    202

Deb

Beautiful examples. Thanks for the pictures and informative post!

From you and other posts it seems thin application is in.

 

I'm at approx 1.4 on hydrometer reading

 

Pic # 2. Is that a dark slip decoration ( horizontal lines), applied while leather hard, bisqued then fcs glazed? What is dark slip formula formula? I have a slip that is clay body slip (helios) with black mason and a clay body slip with manganese I will experiment with......

 

#3 I'm assuming there is a lot of texture in piece.? Secondly it appears to play well with other glazes?

 

#1. I love 266. But all the health warning posts make me afraid to buy more of it. :(

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deborah.    11

Deb

Beautiful examples. Thanks for the pictures and informative post!

 

Pic # 2. Is that a dark slip decoration ( horizontal lines), applied while leather hard, bisqued then fcs glazed? What is dark slip formula formula? I have a slip that is clay body slip (helios) with black mason and a clay body slip with manganese I will experiment with......

 

#3 I'm assuming there is a lot of texture in piece.? Secondly it appears to play well with other glazes?

 

#1. I love 266. But all the health warning posts make me afraid to buy more of it. :(

 

#2: Exactly. I'm pretty sure it's 266 in slip form but I may be forgetting the exact clay

 

#3 It loves texture! It breaks on anything (lettering, throwing lines) but it sometimes has to be more of a severe texture like the mug to get it to break with two glazes, depending on the combination (test!). And yes, it plays well with almost all of our glazes except for the really funky ones that don't like to play well with others.

 

#1 I only use 266 on rare occasions. I don't worry much about it wet but am super cautious doing anything that might create dust with it.

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Biglou13    202

Eureka!!!!!

My falls creek shino is beautiful!!!

Big thanks to Deborah.

You will have to wait for the pictures tomorrow daylight hours.

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Babs    385

I haven't any pics here but I get a great warm toast colour on a white clay body and a thin dipped application, I'll hunt for a pic.

Not imperative to use a Mn. containing body.

What is your rewcipe for this shino?

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JBaymore    1,432

#1. I love 266. But all the health warning posts make me afraid to buy more of it. :(

 

Good studio practices and an AWARENESS of the potential issue will go a long way to mitigating the potential hazards. If you are careful with it, shouldn't be a big issue unless you are going thru tons of it.

 

A huge portion of the H+S issues in the ceramics (and other art media) field come from a lack of awareness that there IS any issue. Somehow a lot of people just asssume that because they are ART materials... they must be safe.

 

The first step is education. It is what you DON'T know that usually bites you in the butt. ;)

 

best,

 

.................john

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Roberta12    135

Deborah, have you had any problems with FCS shivering??   How much lithium carb does your recipe call for?  Nice pieces, btw!!

 

Roberta

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Roberta12    135

Yes, Big Lou, when I am able to start mixing glazes again, I am going to try the reduced lith carb fcs.   Did you get any pictures of your pieces???

 

Roberta

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Biglou13    202

Latest

Falls creek shino

Aka. Randy's oatmeal rust

 

266 slip under fcs (BIG thanks to Deborah), the others just fcs with different thickness. Unless there is texture or dark clay under glaze. Thinne application is better. I just thinned the bucket of glaze.

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Venicemud    9

I think that the new colors you are getting are lovely, so much warmer than the first piece you showed us.  I particularly like the fourth piece that looks as if you brushed the glaze on - looks like a desert sunset.

 

Joan

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Babs    385

Great, bet it could take even thinner. Take a bit of your batch  and thin just that to see if it gets toastier. :) I'll post a bit today.

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Babs    385

Here are a few imaes of the glaze I use, different application thickness, same clay, same temp. same atmosphere.

Unfortunately no longer have  a gas kiln.

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1. thick application

2. Thin then dipped again for thick drool

3. Just there for me

4.  just there for me

Haven't tried with slip underneath, does pool nicely in texture. 

Babs

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jrgpots    231

Here are a few imaes of the glaze I use, different application thickness, same clay, same temp. same atmosphere.

Unfortunately no longer have  a gas kiln.

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1. thick application

2. Thin then dipped again for thick drool

3. Just there for me

4.  just there for me

Haven't tried with slip underneath, does pool nicely in texture. 

Babs

 

NIce colors Babs. 

 

Biglou I really like the thinner applications on this round of your glaze.  I t would look great over deeply textured ware.

 

Jed

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