High Bridge Pottery Posted March 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Ah ok, thanks babs. I do need to start looking after my brushes better. The only one I use tends to sit in a bucket of slip 24/7 which can't be that good for it. It is a cheap brush so I don't really mind and it is not that good a brush. Strings and loops sound like the best idea, did not know keeping them upside down is a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 In Chinese brush painting, some artists use a brush made of rooster feathers. http://www.blueheronarts.com/product_info.php?products_id=878 I have 6 roosters ready for the annual cull.... I am now having no remorse about this! Come to think of it roosters are not known for standing out in the rain so perhaps the water repellant properties are limited to water birds. Now I just know that some one is going to post about swan down brushes. The goat hair could prob be source d from a spinner or dairy farm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Bridge Pottery Posted March 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 What about human hair? I have a lovely head of hair that could be made into many brushes It is a little too curly though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 No Prob. In the sixties we used to iron our hair straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 I build a nylon string loop in top of handle when making them and hang them next to sink. I also own a bunch made by others and have added the loop with a drill and epoxy. Mark MArk what glue do you use to keep them in the bamboo? DO you bind the fibres then glue the brush in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzine Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 What about human hair? I have a lovely head of hair that could be made into many brushes It is a little too curly though. But if you get the hair from someone else, you might have to check for ticks and mites, like with the animal hair......hehe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 I wrap the hairs with nylon heavy thread so it's rot resistant as well as covering the ends and glueing it into bamboo with slow set JB wield epoxy. I have used many a poorly constructed brush that was not made right thats come apart and then repaired I has also used west system epoxy which is a marine two part deal. I have 5-8 types of bamboo patches around our property for handles some is over 20 feet some smaller-you can buy dried bamboo at garden centers-I used to use it in water fountains as well. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 thanks Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mart Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Regardless of whether you make your own or buy your brushes, proper care and storage is important to keeping them in good shape. Many folks store their brushes handle down in a cup/jar, with bristles in the air. That is not a good way to store or dry your brush as the water runs down into the ferrule. Store your brushes by hanging them from the tip of the handle. That lets the water run down when drying and it allows the bristles to keep their shape when dry and not in use. +1 As mentioned before, use cheep stuff for wax (personally never used wax) and good stuff for painting lines etc. Natural hair (dog, squirrel, sable, ox ear, pony etc) watercolour brushes are the best. For a really fine lines, I actually use really thick (>10) but fine tipped brush. Forget the synthetic bristles. Yes, some of those will soak up paint/gaze well but will not let it go so well as natural hair does. I got myself few Escoda pony hair round oval shape brushes with short handle. Wow... I wish I had the money to buy more of those They will probably last for a long time. To be honest, covering large areas with brush is, simply put, BS and I like to avoid it if possible. Pouring, dipping, throwing o_O or what ever you can come up with, will give better results. I wish I had a spray booth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nancy S. Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Your bleeding along the edges may be from the interaction of the oxide wash with the glaze. Two cautions about roadkill as brush sources: fleas and ticks. If you recycle, then treat for fleas and ticks before handling and using. And then there are viruses.... rabies, hantavirus, etc. Actually, rabies would NOT be an issue if the roadkill has been dead long enough to cool down. Rabies is very temperature-sensitive; plus, it's usually carried in the saliva and the spinal fluids, so blood-to-wound transmission is extremely rare even if it's still warm. Hantavirus is carried in the droppings of mice and rats; I wouldn't use their fur anyway, since it is so short and harder to bind to a handle. Fleas and ticks usually leave a carcass when there isn't any blood flowing, because they have nothing to eat. Still, that doesn't mean that roadkill is sanitary, and I don't know if I'd endorse using it.....wear gloves, wash it, and dry it thoroughly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 only here would a simple question re. brushes develop into discussion which has me thinking that I'd better not venture outdoors for fear of the unknown dangers lurking everywhere.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mss Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Having worked with rabies, I would not recommend handling any dead animal without gloves. (Yes, there are other, more stable viruses, but see here re rabies: http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/32131.html) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 THAT'S IT i'M staying indoors! Something may fall on me from on high! Is rabies widespread in the US or just among the potlickers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bciskepottery Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 I guess many potters are rabid, er avid . . . but I've not seen any foaming at the mouth. Drooling over really good forms, glazes, and kilns -- yes; but not foaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mss Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Since you're interested, rabies in wildlife, from the CDC: Wild animals accounted for 92% of reported cases of rabies in 2010. Raccoons continued to be the most frequently reported rabid wildlife species (36.5% of all animal cases during 2010), followed by skunks (23.5%), bats (23.2%), foxes (7.0%), and other wild animals, including rodents and lagomorphs (1.8%). Reported cases decreased among all wild animals during 2010. Outbreaks of rabies infections in terrestrial mammals like raccoons, skunks, foxes, and coyotes are found in broad geographic regions across the United States. Great map here:http://www.cdc.gov/rabies/location/usa/surveillance/wild_animals.html And in dogs & cats: http://www.cdc.gov/rabies/resources/publications/2010-surveillance/cats-and-dogs.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 doesn't look like any of the forum made it into those stats, Yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowerdry Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 "Having worked with rabies, I would not recommend handling any dead animal without gloves. (Yes, there are other, more stable viruses, but see here re rabies: http://www.dec.ny.go...als/32131.html)" This link doesn't work...says the page doesn't exist anymore. So now I'm curious...was there a story there? Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 "Having worked with rabies, I would not recommend handling any dead animal without gloves. (Yes, there are other, more stable viruses, but see here re rabies: http://www.dec.ny.go...als/32131.html)" This link doesn't work...says the page doesn't exist anymore. So now I'm curious...was there a story there? Back to top Might have a virus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChenowethArts Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 During certain season of the year, a lot of white-tailed dear meet their fate along the highways where I live. I have carried hand pruners, gloves and ziplock bags in the car for over a year now, but haven't been able to get past the idea of cutting something off the business end of a dead dear on the side of the road. Heck, I still tear-up watching Bambi...isn't there a wicked dear movie that can get me beyond this?? Anyway, I have looked through the YouTube videos on making brushes...and although this one goes way beyond my particular needs, it is interesting to see elaborate processes for making brushes: Enjoy...it is just over 4 minutes long. -Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmism Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 the important question is to ask is HOW is rabies spread. ie can you get it from "just touching an infected animal" the short answer is no. Transmission of rabies virus usually begins when infected saliva of a host is passed to an uninfected animal. The most common mode of rabies virus transmission is through the bite and virus-containing saliva of an infected host. http://www.cdc.gov/rabies/transmission/ so yes those that catch rabies are likely from being bit by a live wild animals. Most people like to wear gloves when touching dead animals because for most people, dead animals have a tenancy to peg the "gross meter". As a guy who lives on a farm, its something you get used to. The chicken doesn't make it to the table on its own if you know what I mean. as to the original topic i found this vid to be of interest for those of you wondering why the deer tail is bright green. or for those of you not wanting to harvest dead road kill for the tails. FYI they use dear tail in fly tying (as in fly fishing) so you can purchase dear tail for said purpose http://www.amazon.com/Hareline-Large-Northern-Bucktail-White/dp/B001U839ZY/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1394042953&sr=8-2-fkmr1&keywords=dear+bucktail cabelas also carries a whole fur section of there website for fly tying. (pssstttt you dont have to tell them your making brushes out of it ) http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/browse.cmd?N=1100436 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 I use dried bamboo not wet green bamboo as it splits more easily. I also glue a Nylon loop on end of brush to hang them from. These few extra details will make a brush last for decades if taken care of. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JBaymore Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Re: dangers of roadkill.......... Common sense and Clorox are your friends. If you think you need more than Clorox....... give it a pass. best, ...................john PS: I use a lot of horse mane and tail hair. Sometime I get friends that hunt to save me deer tails. I have a Japanese garden... so have bamboo growing in it for handles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nancy S. Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 doesn't look like any of the forum made it into those stats, Yet! Well, that is the "wild animal" category....I'd count potters in the "domestic group." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJR Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 What about human hair? I have a lovely head of hair that could be made into many brushes It is a little too curly though. O.K. Now you are just fishing for a complement.When I look at people, I never look at them with a view to make a brush. I just buy mine-the brushes, that is. TJR [the hairy potter]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 What about human hair? I have a lovely head of hair that could be made into many brushes It is a little too curly though. O.K. Now you are just fishing for a complement.When I look at people, I never look at them with a view to make a brush. I just buy mine-the brushes, that is. TJR [the hairy potter]. TJR if ever you get frozen into your studio again you could start a new trade!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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