Mark C. Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I finally got around to unloading a kiln I fired a few days after x-mass to clean out the glazed wares in shop-Its a small 12 cubic gas updraft.This is the longest I have ever let a kiln sit fired.Good thing we did not have an earthquake . There where about 6 mugs that bloated on top shelve-I have not seen my Porcelain do this for many years I tossed them all in trash and them pulled them out to show what bloating looks like -Its a bit hard to see in these small puny photos but it shows as bumps on the bottom This is classic white clay body bloating-this clay is Laguna's Dave's Porcelain fires to cone 10-this spot got a lot of exit flue gases and the rest of kiln load was fine The bubbles also come thru the glaze but its harder to see.Looks a lot like pimples on clay. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pres Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Actually did not look as extreme as a load I had a few years ago. No breakage, but you would swear there were worms growing in the wall of the put the bumps were so large. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 That's what I look like after I eat too many BBQ ribs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebekah Krieger Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I was worried about what I was going to see when I clicked into this thread…. but then the ADD in me became quickly distracted by the pretty glaze "drippies" on Mark's mugs and I forgot what this was all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChenowethArts Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I have experienced a lot bloating since Thanksgiving...but so far, it has not been contagious enough to affect my clay bodies. Pictures are not available due to the absence of a wide-angle lens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJR Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I was worried about what I was going to see when I clicked into this thread…. but then the ADD in me became quickly distracted by the pretty glaze "drippies" on Mark's mugs and I forgot what this was all about. That's what I was afraid of too. I thought we were going to see a picture of Mark with his shirt off. Phew!. TJR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I was worried about what I was going to see when I clicked into this thread…. but then the ADD in me became quickly distracted by the pretty glaze "drippies" on Mark's mugs and I forgot what this was all about. Ditto show us a mug right way up bloating or not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowerdry Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Mark, you know you're a long time potter when the minor rejects get trashed instead of used as pencil holders, tool holders, junk holders.... Hey, I think that would make a good forum thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted February 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 A few additions are yes I already have way to many pencil holders and tool holders and whatever's. the second is these are not headed to land fill trash they get ground up at a place about a mile from me that recycles non organics -cement -porcelain fixtures like toilets pottery-clay trimmings-rocks-and turns it to road bed fill for State mandated recycle projects. As for the no shirt subject TJR was worried about I cannot get the scanner to work so you all have a respite as I have shirtless photo back building a car kiln in the 70's I was told a story about seconds long ago while in Art School and I will expand on that on your other thread flower dry. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted February 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 I think it applies to bloating - I was told a story back in collage in the mid 70's about not selling your seconds as they will sooner or later come back to haunt you. Of course I was young and knew all the worldly ways I thought and soon after getting my degree was having studio sales twice a year. Now I should add I had no money then and starving artist rules apply when times are tight. What rules you may ask-the rules that apply to get money no matter what. That included have a seconds area at my spring studio sale and as times improved I stopped that but meanwhile some hideous stuff slipped on out the door for cheap and I was able to feed myself and pay the mortgage and buy a pair of shoes now and again . Now fast forward 20 years and some good friends I have become close with has us over to dinner. The salad was serving in a huge stoneware bowl that looked familiar somehow. As a potter you know your stuff down deep even if 30-40 years goes by. Now there was a giant lip split and it was warped like a football shape and the outside had warts the size of walnuts on it. The bowl was passed around a large table with many friends and I said to the host where did that bowl come from and she said she bought it at my studio sale in the late 7o's before she knew me when she moved up here for $3 and isn't it great. We are talking about a butt ugly piece of -----. I offered to replace it and they said no they love it. Now I know what my mentor meant-it comes back to you sooner or later. I think i will add this post to my bloating as it seems to fit. I have long ago leaned to cut my losses and make more pots when they have issues. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted February 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 Here are some 2# mugs that where fine from same load-not bloated. These are huge mugs two are over 30 ounces the other smaller two are 24 ounces. Sorry about the quick and dirty photo Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzine Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 And I thought, at a pound and a half, I made my mugs large.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 And I thought, at a pound and a half, I made my mugs large.... Is a pound and half not 24oz, long time since i left the UK! Ok Benzine, sucked me in again.. Anyway you are committed, like the lickers of pots.. you place yours' in pumpkins, WIERD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 Here are some 2# mugs that where fine from same load-not bloated. These are huge mugs two are over 30 ounces the other smaller two are 24 ounces. Sorry about the quick and dirty photo Mark Oceanic, wow, drooling here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted February 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 I make mugs in many weights so if you want to know what to make them from my specs here they are. 3/4#-volumes-8-10oz 1# -12-14oz 1 1/4#-16-18oz 1 1/2# -2-24oz 2#-32-36oz These volumes do vary a tad but the weights do not soup mugs and motion mugs (truckers anti spill) but those weight's are written on my list and I'm away from studio walls now. With this list you can make many a mug-this week I dropped off boxes of them to my outlets as they are a constant seller. Not everyone is cut out to make these as they can be tedious-The handles are all extruded as are most of my mug handles-they are very strong that way as well. I like a taper but strength and speed trumps this look for me. The trick is do them in same size runs and keep up with them. My salt pots are still all hand pulled but not my weekly production work I just picked up my other extruder from machine shop today. Its being rebuilt for the 4 or 5th time Maybe I should shoot some photos while its apart. Plunger part is hanging in the warm studio with paint drying overnight after a new steel disc was wielded on-its my third push disc-they wear out. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 I make mugs in many weights so if you want to know what to make them from my specs here they are. 3/4#-volumes-8-10oz 1# -12-14oz 1 1/4#-16-18oz 1 1/2# -2-24oz 2#-32-36oz These volumes do vary a tad but the weights do not soup mugs and motion mugs (truckers anti spill) but those weight's are written on my list and I'm away from studio walls now. With this list you can make many a mug-this week I dropped off boxes of them to my outlets as they are a constant seller. Not everyone is cut out to make these as they can be tedious-The handles are all extruded as are most of my mug handles-they are very strong that way as well. I like a taper but strength and speed trumps this look for me. The trick is do them in same size runs and keep up with them. My salt pots are still all hand pulled but not my weekly production work I just picked up my other extruder from machine shop today. Its being rebuilt for the 4 or 5th time Maybe I should shoot some photos while its apart. Plunger part is hanging in the warm studio with paint drying overnight after a new steel disc was wielded on-its my third push disc-they wear out. Mark Did your partner force you back to work? WIth your amount of energy I cannot imagine you moping around! Inspiring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzine Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 And I thought, at a pound and a half, I made my mugs large.... Is a pound and half not 24oz, long time since i left the UK!Ok Benzine, sucked me in again.. Anyway you are committed, like the lickers of pots.. you place yours' in pumpkins, WIERD. Wait until next Fall, when I plan to internally singe, a whole lot of gourds. Mark, I like your weight, to size, chart. I need to put something like that in my classroom. Though, I do like that the students have to come to me, to ask. That way I know, they have a plan. My mugs have a much simpler form. Your's don't look like, what I would call.e a traditional mug, which is nice. I also really like the handles. What do your travel mugs look like? What makes them better for travel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyndham Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 Mark, My extruder has worn me out many times but after 25 yrs of use, I've yet to wear it out, I'm impressed Wyndham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebekah Krieger Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 My mugs are usually 10 oz of clay and hold about 1 cup of liquid. I am trying to force myself to make larger ones (1 #) because consumers like them better. I prefer them to be small so the liquid is hot and then you can re fill it hot again. Your chart is useful, thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJR Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 My mugs are a pound, or 16 ounces. Used to make them 3/4 of a pound, but everyone asked for larger mugs. I only make the one size. Thinking of making some steins though- at 2 lbs. TJR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted February 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 I make mugs in many weights so if you want to know what to make them from my specs here they are. 3/4#-volumes-8-10oz 1# -12-14oz 1 1/4#-16-18oz 1 1/2# -2-24oz 2#-32-36oz These volumes do vary a tad but the weights do not soup mugs and motion mugs (truckers anti spill) but those weight's are written on my list and I'm away from studio walls now. With this list you can make many a mug-this week I dropped off boxes of them to my outlets as they are a constant seller. Not everyone is cut out to make these as they can be tedious-The handles are all extruded as are most of my mug handles-they are very strong that way as well. I like a taper but strength and speed trumps this look for me. The trick is do them in same size runs and keep up with them. My salt pots are still all hand pulled but not my weekly production work I just picked up my other extruder from machine shop today. Its being rebuilt for the 4 or 5th time Maybe I should shoot some photos while its apart. Plunger part is hanging in the warm studio with paint drying overnight after a new steel disc was wielded on-its my third push disc-they wear out. Mark Did your partner force you back to work? WIth your amount of energy I cannot imagine you moping around! Inspiring Babs I was not moping I was mopping with a wet mop-I'm never mope My wife never forces me to work its usually just the opposite -she thinks I work way to hard She asked me over 5 years ago why I am doing so much-it took me about 3 years to realize I could do less and still enjoy life-I just do other things outside of clay Since I have had such success with clay and am debt free I really do get to pick and choose and I have slowly done less shows down for a steady 12 to 7 now. My other sale outlets are about the same as they always have been My yearly forced break has slowly gotten longer it always includes the book keeping (seeing account on Monday) paying of Ca sales taxs -pruning and spraying 10-12 fruit trees -digging all blackberries off property-pruning raspberry patch and all ornamental trees that need any work. These chore are always a constant every year and when that gets done I do other mundane chores-but staying away from the studio is a must during this period.Its a bit of mental health thing and I enjoy the time away.We also spend more time bicycling and taking hikes this time of year when I'm not in studio Bezine I'll take a photo of them as I'm loading them in bisque kiln this am Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 Babs I was not moping I was mopping with a wet mop-I'm never mope My wife never forces me to work its usually just the opposite -she thinks I work way to hard She asked me over 5 years ago why I am doing so much-it took me about 3 years to realize I could do less and still enjoy life-I just do other things outside of clay Since I have had such success with clay and am debt free I really do get to pick and choose and I have slowly done less shows down for a steady 12 to 7 now. My other sale outlets are about the same as they always have been My yearly forced break has slowly gotten longer it always includes the book keeping (seeing account on Monday) paying of Ca sales taxs -pruning and spraying 10-12 fruit trees -digging all blackberries off property-pruning raspberry patch and all ornamental trees that need any work. These chore are always a constant every year and when that gets done I do other mundane chores-but staying away from the studio is a must during this period.Its a bit of mental health thing and I enjoy the time away.We also spend more time bicycling and taking hikes this time of year when I'm not in studio Bezine I'll take a photo of them as I'm loading them in bisque kiln this am Mark Mark, your partner is a wise person, my partner has similar obsessive work energy I haven't cracked how to get him to take time off yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted February 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 TJR asked for a photo with shirt off for some reason-It must really be cabin fever cold up in his parts about now So this one was taken in 1978-1979 when I was building my 1st car kiln-now long gone with another is same spot. I'm the one with the trowel and no shirt. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 TJR asked for a photo with shirt off for some reason-It must really be cabin fever cold up in his parts about now So this one was taken in 1978-1979 when I was building my 1st car kiln-now long gone with another is same spot. I'm the one with the trowel and no shirt. Mark They say when people get really cold they tend to derobe! No pics please TJR! Another big dump of snow in Canada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted February 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Bezine Heres what a motion mug looks like for me-this was todays bisque load going up. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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