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#21 Mark C.

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 08:27 PM

Those old Alpines can have issues-so look for the interior wear and tear-the old burner systems are all forced air and the whole kiln wieghs about double as its wrapped in thick steel.Full metal jacket deal.

I have beenaround many-fired more than i recall in school-at one time these where state of the art-That was then they are old school now. I have seen a few go for free as getting rid of them has been an issue. 

You could plug up the roof hole and cut a hole in lower back wall and add a stack.

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 09:09 PM

I was the Alpine production manager and tech for a couple of years. I've seen 40 year old Alpines still going strong. The brick work can last forever if it's taken care of, but burner systems do wear out. Be careful digging into those kilns, though. If the kiln was made in Elk Grove Village, IL or Sturtevant, WI, the insulation behind the bricks is most likely vermiculite mixed with portland cement. Not terribly dangerous compared to some types of insulation, but a real mess to get out. If the kiln was built when Alpine was in California, nobody knows for sure what was used behind the bricks. They did not keep good records back then. Could be the same thing, or could be abestos or something similar, since they used that for a lot of things back then.


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Posted 20 December 2013 - 10:21 AM

......... the insulation behind the bricks is most likely vermiculite mixed with portland cement.

 

Some vermiculite, particularly the old stuff, was contaminated heavily with asbestos.  This made the health and litigation news in the past 10 years or so.

 

http://www.asbestos....e-compounds.php

 

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 11:41 AM

 

......... the insulation behind the bricks is most likely vermiculite mixed with portland cement.

 

Some vermiculite, particularly the old stuff, was contaminated heavily with asbestos.  This made the health and litigation news in the past 10 years or so.

 

http://www.asbestos....e-compounds.php

 

best,

 

................john

 

 

Good to know!


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#25 Mark C.

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Posted 26 December 2013 - 02:51 PM

Brian what happened to the old Alpine kiln you where looking at?

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Posted 26 December 2013 - 11:26 PM

Because of Christmas I have not made it up there.  I will get up there soon.


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Posted 27 December 2013 - 12:30 AM

To many Rain-deer on the road.

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Posted 27 December 2013 - 12:17 PM

You let Christmas get in the way of looking at a 30 year old broken kiln you can probably get for next to nothing? Where the heck are your priorities!



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Posted 02 January 2014 - 12:18 AM

OK so I went up there yesterday and the Alpine was a bit rougher than I thought.  The floor is a rubble mess, and the burner system would be hard to even remove it is so rusted.  The door was rusted and looks to need some repair.  After looking at it it seems just starting over and building one myself would be less work.


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#30 Biglou13

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 05:08 AM

If you build what design are planing. What kind of roof, how thick, soft or hard brick....
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