Grace Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I have been asked by a blacksmith if he could use my kiln to temper metal. He said it would need to be set between 300-500 degrees for a certain period of time, but no higher. I have a Paragon Sentry kiln with a controller, but I know of no cone settings that would fire that low. I want to help him out, but I also don't want to cause problems - either with the kiln or with his metal pieces. I don't do a lot of experimenting with my kiln - just use the pre-set steps to bisque at cone 05 and glaze at cone 5. Any thoughts or advice greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlady Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 why would he want your kiln instead of an oven in his kitchen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted October 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Good Point! Thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold Howard Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I have been asked by a blacksmith if he could use my kiln to temper metal. He said it would need to be set between 300-500 degrees for a certain period of time, but no higher. I have a Paragon Sentry kiln with a controller, but I know of no cone settings that would fire that low. I want to help him out, but I also don't want to cause problems - either with the kiln or with his metal pieces. I don't do a lot of experimenting with my kiln - just use the pre-set steps to bisque at cone 05 and glaze at cone 5. Any thoughts or advice greatly appreciated. Your controller has two firing modes: Cone-Fire and Ramp-Hold. You could temper the steel using Ramp-Hold. Â Sincerely, Â Arnold Howard Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA ahoward@paragonweb.com / www.paragonweb.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I have tempered brass rings(about 25 of them) used in Banjo manufacturing in an old school maunal Skutt Kiln-I had the lid cracked open on low setting. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pres Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Don't laugh, baked pizza in mine once when the oven was out in the house-used a new shelf to bake on, and had all but two sections off. Pretty good pizza. My kiln does not have a controller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I have tempered brass rings(about 25 of them) used in Banjo manufacturing in an old school maunal Skutt Kiln-I had the lid cracked open on low setting. Mark  Are you a banjo player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Neil A friend who makes banjos lived up my hill a bit up the road-he used to spread this load of tempering out amongest all the local potters.I am not  banjo player So no one person was always doing the low heating. He moved to Oregon a few years back. He still makes few banjos He sold off his Guitar business when he left You may have heard about his banjos as they are famous. http://www.wildwoodbanjos.com/  mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold Howard Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I have tempered brass rings(about 25 of them) used in Banjo manufacturing in an old school maunal Skutt Kiln-I had the lid cracked open on low setting. Mark Custom knife makers also heat steel at a low temperature for an extended period. Â They first heat the steel to a high temperature--typically around 1800F--to harden the steel. After the first heating, the steel is so hard that it is brittle and breaks easily. Heating the steel at a low temperature makes the steel pliable. Â Sincerely, Â Arnold Howard Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA ahoward@paragonweb.com / www.paragonweb.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Neil A friend who makes banjos lived up my hill a bit up the road-he used to spread this load of tempering out amongest all the local potters.I am not  banjo player So no one person was always doing the low heating. He moved to Oregon a few years back. He still makes few banjos He sold off his Guitar business when he left You may have heard about this banjos as they are famous. http://www.wildwoodbanjos.com/  mark  Who hasn't heard of Wildwood Banjos?!? Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSC Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 In college i warmed up lunch and dinner in the kilns and made ravioli on top of the lids of hot kilns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebekah Krieger Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 hmm... Now I am getting grand ideas to broil fish and steak... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill T. Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 My 1027 sure cooks a nice turkey!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrgpots Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 There is a local steak house that heats up 1 inch thick basalt blocks 6 inch x 6 inches square in a kiln to 600 degrees. then places a raw steak on a hot block to your table where you can cook the steak on the rock and eat the freshly cooked meat slice by slice. Â They call it "steak on the rock.".....very tasty. Â yum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkregor Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Anyone ever baked bread in a kiln? Â Any toxicity concerns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Anyone ever baked bread in a kiln? Â Any toxicity concerns? Â Is not a good idea to cook food in your kiln. A certain amount of the stuff that burns out of the clay and glazes is absorbed by or is on the surface of the kiln's bricks. It's a tiny amount, but you don't want that getting into your food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clay lover Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 kill joy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkregor Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Yeah, I can just taste that forbidden bread now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmism Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 why would he want your kiln instead of an oven in his kitchen? Â volume . Â size of parts wont fit in a household oven vs inside the volume of the kiln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JBaymore Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 What Neil said! Â best, Â ....................john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teresa Moran Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 OK . SO can I bake a enamel paints onto heat tolerant surfaces in my kiln? I use currently do this in my oven, but the black mailboxes I paint on are smelly and also they leave a foggy film on themselves which does not happen on the white boxes, they come out shiny. My hubby would love if I could do these inn my kiln instead of the oven. is it possible to simply hold the temp at 350 for at least 30 minutes? I have the V6-CF Bartlett controller on my electric kiln and am a newbie. if it is possible, would I have to worry about the smokey film that is very hard to clean off the boxes also affecting my elements or walls? My intuition says yes it would be a potential problem.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teresa Moran Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Thanks.. I see he said "Go for it", but separately he said food vapors? could affect things, so I m not sure if the slight fogging/ film issue is what you mean that maybe that could linger in the kiln and then be released back onto my pottery later? Thanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 If your kiln is vented it should be okay. Only one way to find out for sure..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teresa Moran Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 thanks guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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