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#1 Grace

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 07:40 AM

I have been asked by a blacksmith if he could use my kiln to temper metal. He said it would need to be set between 300-500 degrees for a certain period of time, but no higher. I have a Paragon Sentry kiln with a controller, but I know of no cone settings that would fire that low. I want to help him out, but I also don't want to cause problems - either with the kiln or with his metal pieces. I don't do a lot of experimenting with my kiln - just use the pre-set steps to bisque at cone 05 and glaze at cone 5. Any thoughts or advice greatly appreciated.

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 07:50 AM

why would he want your kiln instead of an oven in his kitchen?


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 08:30 AM

Good Point! Thx.

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 09:21 AM

I have been asked by a blacksmith if he could use my kiln to temper metal. He said it would need to be set between 300-500 degrees for a certain period of time, but no higher. I have a Paragon Sentry kiln with a controller, but I know of no cone settings that would fire that low. I want to help him out, but I also don't want to cause problems - either with the kiln or with his metal pieces. I don't do a lot of experimenting with my kiln - just use the pre-set steps to bisque at cone 05 and glaze at cone 5. Any thoughts or advice greatly appreciated.

Your controller has two firing modes: Cone-Fire and Ramp-Hold. You could temper the steel using Ramp-Hold.

 

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 09:35 AM

Go for it.


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 10:34 AM

I have tempered brass rings(about 25 of them) used in Banjo manufacturing in an old school maunal Skutt Kiln-I had the lid cracked open on low setting.

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 10:56 AM

Don't lagh, baked pizza in mine once when the oven was out in the house-used a new shelf to bake on, and had all but two sections off. Pretty good pizza. My kiln does not have a controller.


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 01:33 PM

I have tempered brass rings(about 25 of them) used in Banjo manufacturing in an old school maunal Skutt Kiln-I had the lid cracked open on low setting.

Mark

 

Are you a banjo player?


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 02:10 PM

Neil

A friend who makes banjos lived up my hill a bit up the road-he used to spread this load of tempering out amongest all the local potters.I am not  banjo player

So no one person was always doing the low heating.

He moved to Oregon a few years back. He still makes few banjos

He sold off his Guitar business when he left

You may have heard about his banjos as they are famous.

http://www.wildwoodbanjos.com/

 

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 02:33 PM

I have tempered brass rings(about 25 of them) used in Banjo manufacturing in an old school maunal Skutt Kiln-I had the lid cracked open on low setting.

Mark

Custom knife makers also heat steel at a low temperature for an extended period.

 

They first heat the steel to a high temperature--typically around 1800F--to harden the steel. After the first heating, the steel is so hard that it is brittle and breaks easily. Heating the steel at a low temperature makes the steel pliable.

 

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 03:20 PM

Neil

A friend who makes banjos lived up my hill a bit up the road-he used to spread this load of tempering out amongest all the local potters.I am not  banjo player

So no one person was always doing the low heating.

He moved to Oregon a few years back. He still makes few banjos

He sold off his Guitar business when he left

You may have heard about this banjos as they are famous.

http://www.wildwoodbanjos.com/

 

mark

 

Who hasn't heard of Wildwood Banjos?!? Nice!


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 08:46 PM

In college i warmed up lunch and dinner in the kilns and made ravioli on top of the lids of hot kilns.

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 11:48 PM

hmm... Now I am getting grand ideas to broil fish and steak... :)


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 01:45 PM

My 1027 sure cooks a nice turkey!!



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 07:58 PM

There is a local steak house that heats up 1 inch thick basalt blocks 6 inch x 6 inches square in a kiln to 600 degrees. then places a raw steak on a hot block to your table where you can cook the steak on the rock and eat the freshly cooked meat slice by slice.  They call it "steak on the rock.".....very tasty.  yum



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Posted 23 August 2014 - 12:26 PM

Anyone ever baked bread in a kiln?  Any toxicity concerns?



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Posted 23 August 2014 - 12:39 PM

Anyone ever baked bread in a kiln?  Any toxicity concerns?

 

Is not a good idea to cook food in your kiln. A certain amount of the stuff that burns out of the clay and glazes is absorbed by or is on the surface of the kiln's bricks. It's a tiny amount, but you don't want that getting into your food.


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 08:38 PM

kill joy.



#19 mkregor

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 10:50 PM

Yeah, I can just taste that forbidden bread now!



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Posted 23 August 2014 - 11:54 PM

why would he want your kiln instead of an oven in his kitchen?

 

volume .  size of parts wont fit in a household oven vs inside the volume of the kiln.






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