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#1 Biglou13

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 04:41 PM

ok get you minds out of the gutter

here is the deal

it was from original post by jbcox  that has been since censored.

 

3 # of clay

pull a cylinder in 3 pulls

cylinder must be 12 inches tall

must be made exclusively on wheel

clay cannot be dried  eg blow torch or heat gun

picture of cylinder with ruler get you in club

you will be an official fire breather.

 

there will be a kid club level if you can do it in more than 3 pulls.

 

ive heard of this before

its something of an urban myth

lets see who can do it.


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Posted 21 September 2013 - 04:50 PM

3 pounds of clay 12 inch cylinder or whatever.

 

jbcox originally posted.... regarding above...... to which i replied sarcastically, but not disrespectful way it was a play on words collage, college, decoupage, montage, photo montage, digital montage………

it was a friendly ribbing. yes i was yanking his chain on spelling but it was a cool and artistic mis-spelling. i thought was a artistic (Freudian) slip, in a very good way.

 

I did however reply to information in post.

 

Celia from some where in the uk did like it. posted something regarding her disdain.  for me ribbing (pottery humor) jbcox.    I was penning a witty a response.  celia please ffeell freee two spell check mi pots anytmie.

 

a little ribbing is sign of bonding, and acceptance in many modern cultures

 

blowing hot air is just that, hot air

 

as artists and/or craftspersons we have to have thick skin,   and be bold in our statements to be good at what we do.    other wise wear biege become a cog in the boring uninspired, and live in non relevant world.

 

Only to find big brother has censored and deleted whole post.

 

i wonder what else happened after i read it at lunch

 

at my last read   koahku tried and failed.

i too tried today and failed miserably.  i think i got 8.5

 

its sounds like a good exercise

 or is it an urban myth.

 

my tips  

pull as dry as possible

slip covered hands vs water

since i have big hands i will attempt to use a stick

i used grogged clay,   may grog it up a bit more.

use gradual pulls,  to thin too early is deadly

 

if any one else has tips please post

 

ill try again on monday.


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Posted 21 September 2013 - 07:27 PM

The missing piece of information here that makes this "test" at all applicable for comparisons is to set the DIAMETER (either interior or exterior) of the cylinder out of 3 lbs of clay.

 

The smaller the diameter... the thicker the walls can be to get the 12" height.

 

best,

 

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 10:38 PM

The missing piece of information here that makes this "test" at all applicable for comparisons is to set the DIAMETER (either interior or exterior) of the cylinder out of 3 lbs of clay.
 
The smaller the diameter... the thicker the walls can be to get the 12" height.
 
best,
 
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Excellent point, since an increase in diameter causes a corresponding squaring of the volume of clay needed.

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 09:17 AM

I used to not allow students to keep pieces until they could throw 9" with 3 lb. So 12' with 3 lb sounds doable. I don't know if I could do it in 3 pulls but will have to try it to see. To me it is obvious to start with stiff clay, well aged. Others may take a different approach, but I would center, open, take first pull. walk away, then come back and pull next two with dry hands and pointer and thumb only-the way I pull.


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Posted 22 September 2013 - 09:26 AM

I used to not allow students to keep pieces until they could throw 9" with 3 lb. So 12' with 3 lb sounds doable. I don't know if I could do it in 3 pulls but will have to try it to see. To me it is obvious to start with stiff clay, well aged. Others may take a different approach, but I would center, open, take first pull. walk away, then come back and pull next two with dry hands and pointer and thumb only-the way I pull.

We had to throw a ten inch cylinder, in collge, before we could move on.  I don't recall how much clay we were allowed to use.  I got it done, but it was not pretty.

 

I do not require anything like that, of my students.  I just don't have the time, with everything else.


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Posted 22 September 2013 - 06:46 PM

I set that requirement up as it forced them to work towards quality, not quantity. At the same time for the first MP they got an A if they worked diligently on the wheel every day except when preparing clay. They did not have to make a piece, just attempt to throw the cylinder. 90% of the students were able to completed the cylinder and throw pieces the second MP. The benchmark for the 1stMP was a 9 inch in 2 tries.


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Posted 22 September 2013 - 08:25 PM

I set that requirement up as it forced them to work towards quality, not quantity. At the same time for the first MP they got an A if they worked diligently on the wheel every day except when preparing clay. They did not have to make a piece, just attempt to throw the cylinder. 90% of the students were able to completed the cylinder and throw pieces the second MP. The benchmark for the 1stMP was a 9 inch in 2 tries.

We've talked aboutt his in the past, but didn't you have two Ceramics classes?


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Posted 22 September 2013 - 09:40 PM

Ok original post was withdrawn not censored.

Ok new rules....
3 pounds 12 inch high
Any circumference, more than three pulls must be noted, all on wheel gets you in the club

Ok you old pros...... Talk is cheap...... Show me the money!!!! ( picture with ruler)

Your students work is also welcome....
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Posted 22 September 2013 - 09:56 PM

Does said cylinder need a bottom?  That would be some extra clay, to use in the height.....


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Posted 22 September 2013 - 10:02 PM

12 inches any way wheel built 3 pounds.
Extra points for hands only.
Extra points for 3 pulls.

This is a democratic society, any one suggest ....rules.
But keeping it simple works
We could always complicate it later
Post some pics
Failures included......

Ps I'm trying a throwing stick tommorow. I wear size 8.5 gloves !!!
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Posted 22 September 2013 - 10:32 PM

How many bonus points for using our feet?


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 08:35 PM

Just a tad under 12 on one try, three pulls, with a bottom.

 

12 In Pot
 
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Posted 28 September 2013 - 09:39 PM

Nice!

That looks wider than my failed attempt, and I wasn't near that height.
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Posted 29 September 2013 - 03:27 AM

Very nice!! Joel

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 09:06 AM

I suggest anyone, who accomplishes this feat, takes the cylinder, attaches a handle and uses it to drink in their awesomeness with their beverage of choice.
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Posted 29 September 2013 - 09:24 AM

I limit myself to 12oz of ultra light at a sitting. This would be about 24oz!  When I get back into the shop I am going to vid this and post it on utube-if I am any where near successful! B)


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 08:35 PM

i guess collaring would count as a pull, eh?



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Posted 16 October 2013 - 09:01 PM

I'm going to say collaring is not pulling.
I still haven't done it yet.
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Posted 16 October 2013 - 09:58 PM

Last session in the studio, I pulled 18 inches in one pull. Of course it was with an extruder. Not so lucky on the wheel yet.

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