Kohaku Posted June 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Here's another image (by the way- I'll be back from Ecuador on the 30th, and will actually fire some of these things). I've done minimal slab work, so this was a bit of a stretch for me... but I wanted to build a table-side box lantern. People may have noticed that I've been on a 'thrown doughnut' binge of late... thus the handles and the base. My one initial thought on this one is that the handle should have mirrored the base a bit more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathi Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 I think I like this one the best! Please post a picture after you glaze and fire! Here's another image (by the way- I'll be back from Ecuador on the 30th, and will actually fire some of these things). I've done minimal slab work, so this was a bit of a stretch for me... but I wanted to build a table-side box lantern. People may have noticed that I've been on a 'thrown doughnut' binge of late... thus the handles and the base. My one initial thought on this one is that the handle should have mirrored the base a bit more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohaku Posted June 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 I think I like this one the best! Please post a picture after you glaze and fire! Will do... thanks Kathi. I'm now hitting the road to catch some bats in the coastal dry forest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohaku Posted July 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 OK... so this one is less of a 'proportions' question and more of a 'design' question... but I thought I'd post it here rather than making a new thread. I make water features- usually with a basal pedestal (cone six) and a raku upper vessel. The pump sits in the pedestal and sends water into the upper vessel. See example in my gallery. I recently lost a sale because a potential buyer thought the piece 'didn't sound enough like a mountain brook'. Honestly- I know what she meant. When water falls in a single stream (as it does in the fountain in the image above), it sound more like a drinking fountain than like something natural. In thinking of alternatives- I decided to try making an upper vessel that was shaped something like a mill wheel- with flanges inside the rim. The water would (hopefully) burble from flange to flange. These proved to be challenging to make, however. I threw three pieces (Two shallow bowls and an inner disc), slipped/scored the components (using magic water) and joined them. See photo essay below. Jim- if you read this, please ignore the Giffin! Unfortunately, the structure made it hard to join the components as firmly as I usually do (couldn't really push without warping the structure). Both of the ones I made cracked at the seams during yesterdays Raku firing. Anyhow, I was curious as to whether anyone had thoughts on A) making this partcular form... but in a more robust fashion, and alternate ways to achieve the 'babbling brook' sound in a smaller indoor water feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 The sound you are looking for is from mulitiple streams of different sizes so make and edge that has different size escapes(notches) so the water flows fast and slower at same time. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohaku Posted July 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 The sound you are looking for is from mulitiple streams of different sizes so make and edge that has different size escapes(notches) so the water flows fast and slower at same time. Mark Yeah- that makes sense- probably why you see so many of those vertical water features with the corrugated texture. This is part of why the 'mill wheel' shape was intriguing- inherently forces the water to move in complex patterns. Part of my challenge lies with trying to get a bigger sound out of a 16' high assemblage. There are physical limits in terms of the fall distance. I've tried to surmount some of this by having a curved basin (echo chamber) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biglou13 Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 turbulence! can you make or place something in catch basin that will make sounds, light weight ceramic pebbles?, hydroton? it will a least increase the splash quality different sized holes in inserts some concex some concave tell that customer to by some water front property, buy him a cd of a babbling brook you didnt lose a sale, the piece will go to a better owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohaku Posted July 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 turbulence! can you make or place something in catch basin that will make sounds, light weight ceramic pebbles?, hydroton? it will a least increase the splash quality different sized holes in inserts some concex some concave tell that customer to by some water front property, buy him a cd of a babbling brook you didnt lose a sale, the piece will go to a better owner The pebble idea is actually somethig I've played with- maybe a use for some of those ceramic shards I'm going to generate using a tumbler. I agree on general principles about the customer's attitude... except that I tend to agree with her critique. Trying to enhance the sonic quality of these things is something that's interested me for sometime. On another note- I've been cranking some raku lately, and some of the pieces I posted in raw form are finished. Here's one of them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzine Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 turbulence! can you make or place something in catch basin that will make sounds, light weight ceramic pebbles?, hydroton? it will a least increase the splash quality different sized holes in inserts some concex some concave tell that customer to by some water front property, buy him a cd of a babbling brook you didnt lose a sale, the piece will go to a better owner The pebble idea is actually somethig I've played with- maybe a use for some of those ceramic shards I'm going to generate using a tumbler. I agree on general principles about the customer's attitude... except that I tend to agree with her critique. Trying to enhance the sonic quality of these things is something that's interested me for sometime. On another note- I've been cranking some raku lately, and some of the pieces I posted in raw form are finished. Here's one of them... Love the piece. Is there any way you could paint the bulb socket? I think it takes away from the piece overall, though I'm sure it's not noticeable, with the light on. Still a grat piece. What did you use to color the fish, underglaze? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohaku Posted July 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Love the piece. Is there any way you could paint the bulb socket? I think it takes away from the piece overall, though I'm sure it's not noticeable, with the light on.Still a grat piece. What did you use to color the fish, underglaze? Thanks mate- much obliged. This is the first run of lanterns that I've tried to wire for power- and I definitely have a lot to learn. This one- I think I may completely re-wire for a smaller gauge bulb- that thing is simply too enormous. There are a couple accent glazes on the carving- all are Raku glazes. The man color comes from Ferguson's Turquoise. Here's the recipe... Ferro Frit 3110 100 Tin Oxide 3 Copper Carb. 3 Bentonite 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seancisse Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Kohaku, I'm late for answering. The best way I found to get balance proportion is to use the golden ratio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio): 1,618. I found that if each dimension is mulitplied or divided by 1,618, then I get something "nice". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biglou13 Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 1.618 decimal point not comma not one thousand six hundred eighteen phi its the cousin of fibonacci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohaku Posted October 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 It gets a little complex with a ramified, 3D object though. Take that lantern for example... you'd need a computer to assess all the relationships. If the golden ratio is truly meaningful, I'd like to think that the eye could recognize it intuitively... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biglou13 Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 I'm with you. Trust the gut feeling it's usually right. It's innate design and composition, even in nature. I think these rules are for school, and the occasional artist that doesn't have a creative bone in his body. I laughed when I saw it as an camera viewfinder overlay. Because I've always approached design and composition that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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