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#1 terraforma

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Posted 02 April 2010 - 08:22 PM

Hey everyone,

I'm the proud owner of a new, very old Creative Industries Model MP potter's wheel - my first! I've been renovating it (new wheelhead, removing rust, repainting...) and will eventually need to replace a badly rusted foot pedal.

My question is: does anyone out there have an original owner's manual for these wheels? I'd really love to have a copy, and will happily pay for it!

Thanks, everyone - I look forward to participating in more discussions here!

Mickey Fielding
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 10:35 AM

Hey everyone,

I'm the proud owner of a new, very old Creative Industries Model MP potter's wheel - my first! I've been renovating it (new wheelhead, removing rust, repainting...) and will eventually need to replace a badly rusted foot pedal.

My question is: does anyone out there have an original owner's manual for these wheels? I'd really love to have a copy, and will happily pay for it!

Thanks, everyone - I look forward to participating in more discussions here!

Mickey Fielding
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I have an old Creative Industries MP wheel... must've bought around 1986 or so... direct from their factory... I drove down from L.A. and went and picked it up in El Cajon. I don't recall it even coming with an owner's manual back then, if it did... I don't have it anymore. I know that when I bought it Kenton Oakes had just recently purchased the company from the original owner, and they were just beginning to get their feet wet in the business. Recently, late last year I believe... Kenton sold the company to "Speedball" and they make the wheels now. I don't know what their customer service is like yet, but I suppose it will be interesting to see going forward. Have you tried contacting them yet? Sorry I couldn't be more help... good luck refurbishing your wheel.

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 01:22 PM

I have one but of course I still use it and want to keep the manual. But I understand how nice it is to have a manual. I could scan it and mail it to you if you cannot find another. It would take me a while to find mine and scan and mail. but let me know if you don't find one soon.

Hey everyone,

I'm the proud owner of a new, very old Creative Industries Model MP potter's wheel - my first! I've been renovating it (new wheel head, removing rust, repainting...) and will eventually need to replace a badly rusted foot pedal.

My question is: does anyone out there have an original owner's manual for these wheels? I'd really love to have a copy, and will happily pay for it!

Thanks, everyone - I look forward to participating in more discussions here!

Mickey Fielding
Terraforma Studio



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Posted 06 April 2010 - 01:57 PM

Hi Donn,

Thanks so much! I have been looking around for awhile, and was even in touch with the man who used to be the technician for Creative Industries. Unfortunately, not even he had an original owner's manual in his old files.

I doubt that I'll find anyone else anytime soon who will have one of these, so I would love to get a scanned copy from you. As I said, I'll be happy to pay for it - perhaps if you want to do it as an EBay sale, or however you prefer. Why don't you let me know, whenever you do find the manual, and we can make arrangements at your convenience. I can receive it by mail or email, whichever is easiest for you.

Really grateful for this - I look forward to hearing back when you locate your manual.

Take care,

Mickey
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 02:01 PM

Hi Ken,

I have been trolling the web since I purchased this wheel, and knew a little about the history of CI. I even managed to get in touch with one of their original techs (see my reply to Donn...). Hopefully, if I don't hear of any other sources, Donn will locate his copy and I'll be lucky to get a copy of it!

Thanks for your information!

Mickey
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Posted 17 May 2010 - 08:39 PM

I have one but of course I still use it and want to keep the manual. But I understand how nice it is to have a manual. I could scan it and mail it to you if you cannot find another. It would take me a while to find mine and scan and mail. but let me know if you don't find one soon.


Hey everyone,

I'm the proud owner of a new, very old Creative Industries Model MP potter's wheel - my first! I've been renovating it (new wheel head, removing rust, repainting...) and will eventually need to replace a badly rusted foot pedal.

My question is: does anyone out there have an original owner's manual for these wheels? I'd really love to have a copy, and will happily pay for it!

Thanks, everyone - I look forward to participating in more discussions here!

Mickey Fielding
Terraforma Studio



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Posted 18 May 2010 - 12:37 AM

Hi Donn,

I still have found no one else with a Creative Industries potter's wheel owner's manual. Have you by any chance found yours yet? Whenever you do find it, I would still love to get a copy of it.

Thanks again!

Mickey Fielding
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Posted 24 May 2010 - 06:00 PM

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Hi Donn,

I still have found no one else with a Creative Industries potter's wheel owner's manual. Have you by any chance found yours yet? Whenever you do find it, I would still love to get a copy of it.

Thanks again!

Mickey Fielding
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I have a CI wheel from 1975 I did not receive an instruction book with that wheel. I need a splash pan for mine. Any ideas? merrimac fselder@cox.net

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 08:02 PM

Hi Terraforma,

I'm curious about what you need an owners manual for... I have the wheel but not a manual. I don't remember ever having one. Do you need parts info?

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 10:29 PM

I'm curious about what you need an owners manual for... I have the wheel but not a manual. I don't remember ever having one. Do you need parts info?
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I'd like to know what they may have recommended in terms of installation, electrical, height adjustment, parts, etc. I know this wheel is supposedly height adjustable, but I just don't see how that would work with the feet on it now, for example.
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Posted 09 June 2010 - 10:33 PM

I have a CI wheel from 1975 I did not receive an instruction book with that wheel. I need a splash pan for mine. Any ideas? merrimac fselder@cox.net
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You should contact Creative Wheels first - they now represent what used to be Creative Industries wheels - click this link Otherwise, I would check with any local sources of pottery wheel repair and sales.

Good luck!
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Posted 10 June 2010 - 05:59 AM

[quote name='terraforma' date='09 June 2010 - 11:29 PM' timestamp='1276140594' post='1028']
I'm curious about what you need an owners manual for... I have the wheel but not a manual. I don't remember ever having one. Do you need parts info?
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I'd like to know what they may have recommended in terms of installation, electrical, height adjustment, parts, etc. I know this wheel is supposedly height adjustable, but I just don't see how that would work with the feet on it now, for example.
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I do have a leaflet that came with my wheel. I don't think the information it contains will be of help to you but if you have access to a fax I can send it to you... just let me know...

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 12:54 PM

Thanks, plattypus! Anything you can provide wil be greatly appreciated. No fax, however - perhaps if you can snap good pictures of it with a camera or cellphone, you can upload and email them? Please let me know if this is possible.

Best regards,

Mickey
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Posted 10 June 2010 - 02:12 PM

Thanks, plattypus! Anything you can provide wil be greatly appreciated. No fax, however - perhaps if you can snap good pictures of it with a camera or cellphone, you can upload and email them? Please let me know if this is possible.

Best regards,

Mickey


Mickey,

I feel doubtful about the quality of those images... how about the good ol' regular mail? I can photocopy it and send it to you if you want to give me your mailing address... That would probably be the best all around. I have a copier in my house.

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 01:32 PM

Thanks, plattypus! That's very generous of you to offer mailing it to me. I can send you a pre-stamped envelope if you tell me how many ounces the final brochure weighs - that way, you're only out a few sheets of copy paper and a scrap of toner!

Very best,

Mickey
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Posted 15 June 2010 - 07:26 PM

No worries... it's only 4 sheets of paper and probably 1 stamp. I can send it asap. Just don't know if it is going to do anything for you... just tell me where and it will be on it's way in a day or so...I am in NJ.. not sure how many days to get to California..

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 08:52 PM

Great - thanks again! I owe you one. I'll send my address in a private message.
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Posted 21 June 2010 - 09:19 PM

Hi Plattypus,

thanks so much!! :lol::lol: I just got the manual copy in the mail, and it's great - has a lot of information I would never have expected, including some options the wheel had at the time that I'm going to look into trying now. You even did a color copy - I can see how it had that totally seventies, brown-on-brown color scheme. :)

You get a gold star for going above and beyond the call of duty!

Take care,

Mickey


No worries... it's only 4 sheets of paper and probably 1 stamp. I can send it asap. Just don't know if it is going to do anything for you... just tell me where and it will be on it's way in a day or so...I am in NJ.. not sure how many days to get to California..


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Posted 12 March 2011 - 07:54 PM

Is there a chance I could get a copy of this manual? I've had mine for almost 20 years, and there's no chance I'm going to find mine. :-) It's been running like a champ, but the pedal is starting to lose some stiffness. Starts to wander out of speed, so I have to put some rubber bands near the base to keep it from rushing full tilt. Thanks in advance. I'll pay for postage, or if you could email it to me, that would be great as well.
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Posted 09 June 2011 - 12:09 AM

Kanokohata,

I am a repair technician, and have been for 16 years. I have worked on quite a few CI wheels, and recently ran into a couple of clients that have them (MPs and HPs). I did some research with Speedball, and the parts are simply not available. Speedball abandoned that line of wheels when they purchased the wheel division of Creative Industries in favor of the BOSS series which use a completely different control set (parts are not interchangeable).

Your best bet for parts is to keep an eye out for other used JR, MP, or HP wheels. Pick them up for a song and take them apart. Salvage whatever you can off of them and toss the rest.

The wiring diagrams for the 3 leg plastic models can be found on the inside of the circuit board cover. As far as the older 4-legged square models...unless you know someone who understands motor controller design and can make a PCB, forget it. Once its controller is broken, its gone.

Just be REALLY careful of that big blue capacitor under the belt guard. They can hold a charge for a VERY long time and can bite you if you aren't careful.
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