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One of my most favorite ceramics books is Tony Birks "LUCY RIE". Does anyone know if Lucy Rei's glazes formulas have been written down and saved for posterity? Thanks.

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One of my most favorite ceramics books is Tony Birks "LUCY RIE". Does anyone know if Lucy Rei's glazes formulas have been written down and saved for posterity? Thanks.

 

 

 

 

I share your love for Lucie Rie's work. I have one recipe (copied long ago from a UK ceramics book but never used) attributed to her. Here is the text (verbatim with commentary) from the book:

 

Lucie Rie's White (oxidized, 1,250°C)

 

58 soda feldspar

14 china clay

10 zinc oxide

10 tin oxide

8 whiting

8 flint

 

This glaze is the famous glossy white glaze used on Lucie Rie's tableware, often stained brown with manganese and copper carbonate on the rims. It can be tried with less tin - 5 or even 2 percent - but is expensive to make, and inclined to crawl when used on biscuit ware, perhaps because of the high zinc content. Lucie Rie's pots, of course, are once fired, which avoids this problem.

 

 

Hope this helps,

Miri

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"I share your love for Lucie Rie's work. I have one recipe (copied long ago from a UK ceramics book but never used) attributed to her. Here is the text (verbatim with commentary) from the book."

 

Thank you very much for the recipe. It will be logged and treasured.

 

ps: just found this site in England. They seem to have inherited all her notebooks and correspondence. I sent a query about glazes. If I hear back from them, I'll add to this post.

 

info@vads.ac.uk

 

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I would be very interested to hear if those folks get back to you!

 

Miri: They did reply, and passed me on to another group that has Lucy Rie's notebooks and correspondence. The second group (name escapes me right now) e-mailed me back today saying that the person I need to talk to (Jean Vacher) is on holiday all week. I will try again on Monday. Hopefully Lucy's notebooks have been transcribed. Their e-mail is craftscenter@ucreative.ac.uk

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I would be very interested to hear if those folks get back to you!

 

Miri: They did reply, and passed me on to another group that has Lucy Rie's notebooks and correspondence. The second group (name escapes me right now) e-mailed me back today saying that the person I need to talk to (Jean Vacher) is on holiday all week. I will try again on Monday. Hopefully Lucy's notebooks have been transcribed. Their e-mail is craftscenter@ucreative.ac.uk

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks!

 

Miri

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The Lucy Rie Archive sent a reply yesterday. Alas! The news is not good. Here's Ms Vacher's response...

 

 

Dear Mr Kelly,

 

 

 

 

Thank you for your enquiry regarding Lucie Rie's glazes. Unfortunately, we don't have a transcribed set of recipes that I am able to send you. The Rie archive has been fully catalogued and I have attached a screenshot of what we have in terms of glaze recipe books. This gives you a broad idea of what the archive contains, but short of inviting you to see the material for yourself, I am afraid that I am unable to be of help. Moreover, as you see there is the additional problem that some of the earlier notebooks are written in German.

 

 

 

 

Emmanuel Cooper, ceramicist and former editor of Ceramic Review has been using the Lucie Rie archive extensively to write a book on her (as yet unpublished), and might be able to answer some technical questions. I should be happy to forward on an email from you.

 

I replied that I would indeed appreciate it if she'd forward my query on to Emmanual Cooper. [We'll see what we see.] However, in the list of things shown in the screenshot [which was a directory tree of items in the collection] I saw "Book of Hans Coper recipes". I asked her about that since Hans Coper and Lucy worked together for so long. Indeed, he was her apprentice and as such would have used [and mixed] the glazes in her studio. I said that even if his glaze notebooks were untranscribed, if the pages were legible to an English speaker, I'd love to see a .pdf file copy. So...we may have a side door to Lucy's glazes yet.

 

 

 

 

 

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Thanks for sharing!

Miri

 

Better yet...I got a reply from Emmaneul Cooper.

 

Dear Robert Kelley,

The Crafts Study Centre has forwarded your enquiry about Lucie Ries's glazes. Yes, these have been transcribed and fully listed. These are

available in back copies of the magazine Ceramic Review. If you check on the website there is a search engine, but I am sure you will find what you want.

Good luck with your research.

Sincerely

Emmanuel Cooper

 

So far, I'm stymied on using the search engine. I entered (1) Lucy Rei glaze formulas, (2) Glaze formulas, and (3) Lucy Rei. Got zero returns on all of them. A bit of a surprise. I've sent off a query to the editorial staff. In the meantime, I'll start through the Archive year-by-year and see what turns up. At least we now know they exist.

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FWIW, I just searched for Lucie (ie, NOT "Lucy") in the CR archive... the article Cooper wrote about her notebooks is in CR 150. Cooper wrote several other articles about Rei as well. Many art museums (and/or colleges with good ceramics programs) have libraries which subscribe to CR... one near you may be open to the public so you can browse to get the articles with the specific info you want.

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... the article Cooper wrote about her notebooks is in CR 150.

 

Thanks a million! I think I'll just buy it on-line, but our local UMass campus at Dartmouth has a ceramics program and library. I'll check them out.

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