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#1 ceramichetigrini

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:59 PM

Hi,

I would like to follow Linda Arbuckle's video for majolica decoration. If I'm not wrong, after decorating with GCDs she use some wax resist before giving the background color.
Should anyone give me some hints about which kind of wax resist I should use? I would appreciate any easy-to-find suggestion since I'm not sure to be able to find
USA commercial products in Italy. Is a hot wax resist with paraffin fine?
Thanks for any suggestions.
Alessia

#2 Marcia Selsor

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 02:06 PM

I am sure it is not hot paraffin. I would say Archie Bray Wax resist. I know Aftosa has their bluish wax resist that also works well on a glazed surface.
"Ceramica" or Dellarobbia" may have a product in Italy that works.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 03:33 PM

I believe she uses an emulsion based wax -- Standard Ceramic, Forbes, etc. I've used Forbes over the Amaco GCD colors with no problems.

Here is link to her handouts http://lindaarbuckle...e_handouts.html

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 03:46 PM

Thanks.
I should understand if these sellers ship also in Italy and... if shipping costs are not crazy ;)
I don't think it is easy to find similar items in Italy. Colorobbia (I guess Marcia is referring to them, Della Robbia is a famous italian artist) has nothing similar to liquid wax resist.
I tried looking for liquid wax resist several time but without any success up to now. This is the reason
why I'm wondering if paraffin or some other easy-to-find product can be used.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:58 PM

Thanks.
I should understand if these sellers ship also in Italy and... if shipping costs are not crazy Posted Image
I don't think it is easy to find similar items in Italy. Colorobbia (I guess Marcia is referring to them, Della Robbia is a famous italian artist) has nothing similar to liquid wax resist.
I tried looking for liquid wax resist several time but without any success up to now. This is the reason
why I'm wondering if paraffin or some other easy-to-find product can be used.


I think wax would disturb the glaze during application because it could chill. A liquid acrylic medium (used in painting) diluted might work and does burn off clean. Look at one other European distributors like Ceradel in France. They are all over France. Someone should have an equivalent.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 10:35 PM

Marcia,

thanks for the recommendation of using the acrylic medium. I tried wax ontop of glaze and after it dried it started to peel up, taking some glaze with it. Is this normal? I'm not sure what is in it. It is a liquid wax sold by a local supplier.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 11:08 PM

Emulsion wax like Aftosa , Archie Bray liquid wax, Etc. will lay ov a glaze. Paraffin may cover a glaze if you dip it when it is very not by brushing it over a glaze. It cools too quickly.
I have use diluted acrylic medium but I have not tried it for this purpose although I think It would work.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 06:10 AM

Emulsion wax like Aftosa , Archie Bray liquid wax, Etc. will lay ov a glaze. Paraffin may cover a glaze if you dip it when it is very not by brushing it over a glaze. It cools too quickly.
I have use diluted acrylic medium but I have not tried it for this purpose although I think It would work.

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Hi Marcia,

thanks a lot. I looked at ceradel. They have something called "wax resist" however in the catalog they say it is paraffin based. I'm not sure it is fine. I will try to understand better.
I have also found latex and peel off mask but I'm not sure they work fine for this kind of decoration.

Which kind of acrylic medium have you used for your work? I may try to look for them.
Thanks again
Alessia

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 01:42 PM

Hi Alessia,
Here I found out that you can make your own wax resist. You can fill up a small bottle with candles, you use for warming the tea, and fill the empty space with white spirit. Of course only the wax of the candles. After that you put the bottle in hot/warm water so everything is liquid. That resist you can use for yor pottery. This recipe I found in an article in the forum of "Klei" a Dutch magazine.
I hope you can use this recipe.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 01:52 PM

Could you use varnish or shellac?

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 03:33 PM

Hi Alessia,
Here I found out that you can make your own wax resist. You can fill up a small bottle with candles, you use for warming the tea, and fill the empty space with white spirit. Of course only the wax of the candles. After that you put the bottle in hot/warm water so everything is liquid. That resist you can use for yor pottery. This recipe I found in an article in the forum of "Klei" a Dutch magazine.
I hope you can use this recipe.
Teresa


Hi Teresa,

thans a lot. I will try. To be sure, by white spirit do you mean the one which is used for preparing alcoholic drinks at 95 degree?

For Shirley: I have tried with shellac but it didn't work well. Not very resisting.

Alessia

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:16 PM

I use wax on top of glaze all the time. I use the same water based wax resist I use for glazing. The key to keeping it from peeling off is to thin it down with water. If it goes on too thick it will peel up. Of course, too thin and it won't resist well. It'll take some practice to figure out what works best with your wax. I get my wax from Ceramic Supply Supply, which they get from Ceramic Supply in NJ. It's the only brand I've found that doesn't gum up brushes. Washes out clean with just water and never ruins brushes.

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 12:06 PM

Hi Alessia. Don't give up on the Shellac. The trick is, it must be completely dry. As usual with pottery, haste makes waste!



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 06:50 AM

I use Forbes for bottoms, and mix 1/2 Forbes -1/2 Mobile for over glaze.  The Mobile takes forever to dry and stays sort of sticky if used for bottoms, so is only used in this mixture.  I add a touch of food coloring to help see the wax design over the glaze.



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 07:04 AM

is liquid floor wax available where you live?  it was used this way in the past but i have not seen it on store shelves in many years.


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Posted 08 September 2013 - 01:11 PM

Many thanks oldlady... I will be hunting for this product which I remember from years ago. In the meantime, I started using an old ceramic aromatherapy oil burner which keeps the minute amount of wax I need at a constant temperature. So easy to use. But the liquid wax would be even better.






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