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#1 Mary T

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 02:34 PM

I used the ketchup red glaze from "Techniques &tips for Electric Kilns" and it came out brown. Is there a red glaze out there that really comes out red at cone 6? BUT the Glossy Black over the Blue Matt is beautiful. Thank you for that!

#2 Mary T

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 10:35 AM

http://web.ncf.ca/bf250/glazeiron.html

a nice collection of information for understanding what makes or breaks iron glazes



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Posted 18 November 2012 - 10:36 AM


http://web.ncf.ca/bf250/glazeiron.html

a nice collection of information for understanding what makes or breaks iron glazes



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Posted 18 November 2012 - 10:36 AM

Very interesting, thank you.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 12:39 PM

Here is a link to some good info on iron reds by John Post . . .

http://www.johnpost....troubleshooting

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 04:09 PM

The John Post article is right on. I have mixed several iron red over the past year and find slow cool is the big secret. Coyote's Really Red is a good cone 6 glaze, just put it on thick and no need to slow cool. Suspect it is an encapsulated glaze.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:36 PM

Depends on what type of red you're trying to get.

Encapsulated mason stains will definitely get you bright red -- like those posted above -- but they always look "Crayola" to me. Add up to 10% or so and it's pretty hard to screw up since they're made to do what they say. Underglazes also will work in a pinch - Duncan "Really Red" underglaze is a good liquid form of red to add into your glaze or just use it over/under another.

Also, I've tested many commercial ^06/04 glazes (Like Duncan, Speedball, etc) at ^6 and many of them work just fine without any running (but always test first!!!!) since they're made so dependable and user friendly.

If you're looking for a reduction copper red at ^6, then that's different.

^6 Red to Green (reduction)
25 #3124
15 Gerstley
20 Neph Sye
15 EPK
15 Flint
5 Whiting
5 Zinc
1% Ba
1% Cu

Iron Red
^6 Berry Rust
26 Silica
27 EPK
7 Neph Sye
9 Bone Ash
13 Talc
18 #3134
12% RIOX

If anyone has other ^6 reds (esp. Cu reds) - mind sharing?

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:02 AM

For premade, Coyote also offers 2 copper reds; Oxblood and Snowy Plum. They are really cool, but need to be applied thickly to get the red. I think there is also a recipe in the archives for a chrome-tin pink that looked like it would be fun to try.

http://coyoteclay.com/

Four ways to red

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Posted 28 April 2015 - 12:39 PM

okay.. it has been so long since I have been here complaining about ketchup red not being red that I am not sure that this post will go out there somewhere BUT I need to tell someone that I just emptied my kiln with a whole load of ketchup red with glossy black over and black with ketchup red over. In my 20 years, I have never been so pleased with a glaze. Comes out almost black but with variation on raised areas. It doesn't leave my fnger prints, drips, messes, etc., just a beautiful shiney glaze. I just microwaved a piece and it didn't explode...  sometimes life is just good!



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Posted 28 April 2015 - 03:58 PM

Have any pictures Mary T? Would be great to see!  :)



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Posted 28 April 2015 - 09:22 PM

Would you share the recipe? Would love to see pictures. And pat yourself on the back, you deserve it for tenacity and endurance.
- chantay

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Posted 28 April 2015 - 09:30 PM

In addition to recipe, do you use a special firing/cooling schedule for your kiln?  That would be helpful, too, as iron reds do better with a controlled cooling and a hold at 1600F or so to promote crystal growth. 

 

I've taken a cone 10 iron red (kaki) that came out brown and ran it through a bisque kiln firing . . . with good red results from the third firing. 



#13 Marcia Selsor

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Posted 29 April 2015 - 08:57 AM

here is one I used with crimson stain and one with iron. Both recipes are listed.

 

 

http://community.cer...6-deep-crimson/

 

http://community.cer...ge-6-oxidation/

 

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Posted 29 April 2015 - 02:18 PM

I've been working with a version of Bailey's Red, modified for Cone 8, but not much ketchup color yet.  I may be putting it on too thick.  On the other hand, it makes a very useful overspray for some of the other glazes I'm working with.



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Posted 30 April 2015 - 11:37 PM

thank you marcia for the recipe for faux celedon on Frost.   i can't wait to try something with frost!!!  i had heard that glazing it was problematic.  thanks again :)


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