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#1 AndyL

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 12:40 PM

I'll be buying my first kiln soon and so far the choice seems to between a Skutt or L&L. Any opinions about either??

#2 MadMudder

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 04:46 PM

Good question. I am thinking about selling my gas kiln and getting an electric kiln instead.
I too would like to know which one people prefer.
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#3 Old Mike

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 05:25 PM

I am the clay studio manager for a local art center. We recently got a new Skutt 1227 with 3 phase hookup. It works great. I am also familiar with L&l as we wore one out after many years of service. They are also a fine kiln. We got the Skutt because our local distributor gave us a good deal on it. For most situations the 1227 might be a little big. I have recently begun doing Macro Crystalline glazing and a good controller is an absolute must. Both kilns have one. This topic was discussed on another forum that I am on and it was about 50/50 with no one having anything bad to say about either but all have their own preferences. I plan to build a studio in my home this summer and will probably end up with an L&L as a supplier has a great package deal on a smaller L&L and the wheel that I want. My choice would be based on which one I could get the best deal on. You can't go wrong with either company.
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Posted 01 April 2010 - 11:06 PM

L&L hands down. Steve Lewicki and the folks at L&L really have it together. Our art center has used L&L kilns for years, and they are our first choice when we need to replace an old one. For heavens sake get the computer control. It will save you grief in the long run. I have recently purchased a used L&L and it works great. Best of all, L&L not only back their products, but give back to the clay community. I cannot recommend them highly enough. Good people.

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Posted 02 April 2010 - 09:14 AM

L&L hands down. Steve Lewicki and the folks at L&L really have it together. Our art center has used L&L kilns for years, and they are our first choice when we need to replace an old one. For heavens sake get the computer control. It will save you grief in the long run. I have recently purchased a used L&L and it works great. Best of all, L&L not only back their products, but give back to the clay community. I cannot recommend them highly enough. Good people.


Thanks everyone for your opinions. Sucecki can I pick your brains a little more?? I get the impression the L&L computer controller is preloaded with 4 ramps. Can you remember if a Bisque, Cone 04, Cone 6 and Cone 10 is preloaded?

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Posted 02 April 2010 - 03:14 PM

I have an old L&L where I work and it's a great kiln. I love the element holders--that alone would sell me. Although it was a PAIN the first time I changed elements because the old ones were sooooo old they came out in little short pieces. I used a pair of needle nose pliers and some tweezers. Sheeesh! But if you're firing ^6, the elements won't last long enough to get that brittle. I have Paragons at home and I wouldn't buy them again. Have used the Skutt and like it, too.

For what it's worth, I never use the pre-set ramps. You'll want to program your own anyway.

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Posted 02 April 2010 - 05:43 PM

Hello.. brand new to this forum and I have two L and L kilns, both superb and a Skutt 1227.. Love it as well.. I am just now changing elements on my larger L and L .. I bought it used and it had been sitting in a basement for many years, but I fired it for two more years with corroded elements and it worked fine.. I've got a small J 214 L and L and it's still firing after buying it used as well.. still going strong.. My Skutt had the elements changed in 2004 and is now showing a slow down in the firing schedule.. I've used all the kilns for both bisque and cone 6.. I purchased a controller that is mounted on the wall and have changed all the plugs so that I can use it on all the kilns, but I now use it for glass fusing only.. I prefer to use cones in the kilns for my pottery.. Hope this helps.. This is a great Board and absolutely love the Ceramic Art Daily and all that it offers!. Great to know we now have a forum.. Pot On potter friends.. Carolyn

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Posted 03 April 2010 - 08:42 AM


L&L hands down. Steve Lewicki and the folks at L&L really have it together. Our art center has used L&L kilns for years, and they are our first choice when we need to replace an old one. For heavens sake get the computer control. It will save you grief in the long run. I have recently purchased a used L&L and it works great. Best of all, L&L not only back their products, but give back to the clay community. I cannot recommend them highly enough. Good people.


Thanks everyone for your opinions. Sucecki can I pick your brains a little more?? I get the impression the L&L computer controller is preloaded with 4 ramps. Can you remember if a Bisque, Cone 04, Cone 6 and Cone 10 is preloaded?


The Dynatrol comes with a few ramp settings loaded, slow bisque, fast bisque, slow glaze, fast glaze...every time you input the cone you want to fire to. It is really easy to adjust the ramp and also easy to soak at certain temps, fired down, etc. What I appreciate is the directions are very well though out, and L&L also has a very explicit book on any firing question that you might have. I am not at all techno inclined but they make it easy. Haven't overfired a bisque accidentally since I got one, and no longer need to worry about the kilns where I teach.




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