London NW4 Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 I have an obvious Art Nouveau ? Austrian ceramic pot the body glazed after underglaze the base however has the underglaze colour but remains unglazed.The body has applied uncoloured figures Why should his the base have been painted but never glazed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulk Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 Hi London! Can you post a pot pic? Typically the part the pot sits on is left unglazed, else the pot stick to the kiln shelf when glaze fired; from there, the glazed/unglazed margin may be higher up the side of the pot - that's up to the potter, eh? Although I'll typically glaze to a "natural break" (e.g. the edge of the foot, a ring/groove that I turned whilst trimming, etc.) near the foot of the pot, sometimes I like to leave a broad band of raw clay, especially toasty (non-white) clays; from there, I typically highlight any carving/chattering with glaze or underglaze as well, with or without a glaze over that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London NW4 Posted March 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 Thanks thats kind. I have done some amateur potting so I understand - So when as here there is just streaks colour on the unglazed base but no sign of kiln cones what can be the reason. BTW the delicate figures applied to the body are glazed but uncoloured. I having problems sending pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlady Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 don't know why but i immediately thought of someone who decided they did not like the original work and handed it off to a child or beginner who never figured it out either. can't wait to see a photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London NW4 Posted March 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 ca n i send photo direct to you The photos are on my phone and I dont know how to share without address Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlady Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 i am the least computer literate member here and i do not have a cell phone. look below at the paperclip on the left and try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabby Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 I am the second least computer literate member here , so my suggestion may not be the most efficient.. You could send the photo to yourself, then download the photo to your computer, then post it on the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 Take it to local potter or ceramic gallery and ask there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London NW4 Posted March 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 Unfortunately I am 92 without transport - working the photo problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulk Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 If your phone cable will plug into your computer, typically files (such as photos!) can be copied from the phone - be sure to have your phone open/unlocked. From there, this site has a file size limit, hence you may have to snip the picture and save it in a smaller (e.g. .jpg) format... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London NW4 Posted March 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 NEVER KNEW THAT TA WILL TRY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London NW4 Posted March 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 Hi Think you are right - the base is not wholly covered but has only random streaks of body colour as if it was a trial . I will a pic when I can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Roberta12 Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 Well, that's lovely! Nice job on getting the photo posted! Roberta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pres Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 A google image search reveals a series of references to Art Nouveau vase forms. You may be able to track the specific vase to a maker. https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZisvDkcRQCbsHhfho6ASPak5mPYdpjTNzH7Uu0cprPz7tlhlthEXHlyTnf0UdIQnP3Y-viiyX0pqQ5vANqmVO-pM1yfPdBZGGeirwI8m8f_1D9u4O_1jhrIiVEsQ6ILtSb5g1aX_1QUe9LXhhbzO6_1gG5qZ4KblXwqFkUvudICyXEHkqlTWfUMFQdHA-r21dZBIPKsbD0D8zNvhkvZF7r6MefToDr9_1cHiUf3WxfmscOpXsqyQwjfMp2X8dg-vJGPsliFtHy6400RoZ-PZ_19zyGrP23qf0BjzQ9IC-ezGm10BSj7rKVJRoWYK3uikee0UKwwev_1LcgbVbkoR-00j4yo04GPjLP9Ug&hl=en best, Pres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazenerd Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 http://www.stokemuseums.org.uk most of the pottery museums in the UK; including Art Noveau collections. Contact them, they will know. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlady Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 that is a lovely piece of art pottery or better! not at all what i imagined it to be. you might check with antique dealers who specialize in ceramics. since you are in london, try someone at the Victoria and Albert museum before you do anything to the vase. keep us informed, please. you have done so well with the photo, may we see the bottom if it has any markings? a photo sent to the V&A might bring an answer, there must be an expert there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London NW4 Posted March 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 33 minutes ago, oldlady said: that is a lovely piece of art pottery or better! not at all what i imagined it to be. you might check with antique dealers who specialize in ceramics. since you are in london, try someone at the Victoria and Albert museum before you do anything to the vase. keep us informed, please. you have done so well with the photo, may we see the bottom if it has any markings? a photo sent to the V&A might bring an answer, there must be an expert there. The mark is indescifrable = I will try the V and A I have scoured the internet without finding anything close the form is like Amphora - Austrian art nouveau . I would love a confident attribution Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London NW4 Posted March 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 45 minutes ago, glazenerd said: http://www.stokemuseums.org.uk most of the pottery museums in the UK; including Art Noveau collections. Contact them, they will know. Tom Will try London V and A have too much rubbish sent to them Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rae Reich Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 A photo of the bottom, however indescribable, is necessary for attribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London NW4 Posted March 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 see attached = any ideas gratefully received Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlady Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 it appears to be made from marbled clay. i wonder if it might have been a trial piece for a factory. the series of numbers might indicate various tests or steps in manufacturing it. it really is beautiful just the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London NW4 Posted March 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 Many thanks - hadnt thought of marbled clay - good thinking . The applied figures are so fragile its a miracle they survived Best wishes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrim8 Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 The white streaks on the neck of the vase - wonder if that is the marbling coming through? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London NW4 Posted March 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 Certainly marbled clay - obvious on base. Attribution sought. Unable to find another remotely similar - tiny blue mark and man scratched number and letters Cant be a test - finely detailed applied figures and was gilded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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