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L&L Kiln - E22 & 26 Error Codes

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So I replaced my TCs about a month or two ago and I had no problems. I fired probably 5-6 times since I replaced them. However a few weeks ago I turned on my kiln and had an e-22, that flashed between that and e-26. I thought it was just because it was cold (45F)in my garage, so I heated up my garage with a heater and the error went away. So I thought it was just a cold problem, although in all the previous years I have never had this issue with even colder nights.

Well, I went out there today to run a firing and it is probably 60F in my garage because of the crazy warm weather today. I am now getting the same error codes again. I did all the steps on L&L's website for the E-22. 

As here: http://hotkilns.com/how-fix-e-22-or-e-6-error-code-dynatrol

I checked everything and redid all the TC connections just to be sure. Error still persist.

When I check TC 1 and TC 2 temp it reads -106. 

One thing I will note is that it flashes E-22, then E-26 and stays on E-26.

E-26 from this link: http://hotkilns.com/error-codes

Says the following: E- 26 (E-26, Er26, E26): a2d (analog to digital conversion) not working properly/problem- try again or replace the board.

Any ideas? I have checked all the wiring and everything looks great. All the numbers match and everything is as it should be.

I am guessing for some reason my board is dead? I haven't had any power surges or anything. 

I have an email into L&L, but it is the holiday season, I am guessing I might not hear back for a while. So I thought I would post my question here just in case anyone has any clues. My 3-year warranty ran out this year, so might be an expensive fix. If I need a new controller I might just get the digital one. 

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I am thinking at this point that I should just get the Bartlett controller for $329. https://www.bartinst.com/kilns/31

Seems to make much more sense to spend $80 more and get the upgraded controller. I will have to investigate how all this works. I am not sure if L&L sells them or if I have to buy from Bartlett.

 

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12 minutes ago, Joseph F said:

I am thinking at this point that I should just get the Bartlett controller for $329. https://www.bartinst.com/kilns/31

Seems to make much more sense to spend $80 more and get the upgraded controller. I will have to investigate how all this works. I am not sure if L&L sells them or if I have to buy from Bartlett.

 

I'm surprised that your board went bad. It's not a common thing. How old is it/ how many firings?

L&L sells them. See if they'll give you the 20% discount if you get the Genesis.

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I am surprised as well. Only 290 firings. I have only had the kiln since June 2014. So it is past the warranty. 

I can't imagine all of the sudden my TC wires randomly go backwards. I have fired it 5-6 times with good results since I changed my TCs. So unless I have a kiln goblin messing with me, I think it has to be the board at this point. I asked them about the new controller in my reply, but I haven't gotten a response from them yet.

Thanks.

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I have been emailing back and forth with L&L. I can't read apparently. I thought the 20% discount was on returning. It is a RESTOCKING fee. lol. :wub:

However, they do have refurbished genesis controllers for $165. He said they were tested and set up there at his factory so they leave working fine. I think this is what I am probably going to go for. Seems like a great deal. I get to upgrade and replace the old one for cheaper than a newer old one, of course, it is a refurb, but if it's working when it leaves I can't see it being in any worse shape than a new one usually. Thoughts?

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21 minutes ago, Dick White said:

Get the refurb Genesis. You're paying half what I paid for mine directly from Barlett. I wonder if they will sell me a refurb, I have 2 other kilns that could use an upgrade at half price...

 

I decided to go with it. Going to place the order tomorrow. I guess it all worked out okay after all. Although I have no real problems with the current controller. I am excited about the features of the genesis. Mostly the wifi updates, the phone software, and being able to name my dang programs. I have to look at notes to remember which one is which, or go through them all manually. Bleh.

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Just for completion, I wanted to update the forum post for future people who have the same error. I installed my refurb genesis controller today and my TC's are reading fine. Although they seem a bit warm to me. 76F in my kiln apparently. I haven't adjusted anything yet as I will be doing the firings with cones to verify cone 6 and offsets like I did after element changes. I assume it will need similar offsets. 

I am pretty happy with the controller. It is much nicer being able to see the entire program in front of you when your building it. I also like the wifi and I am going to get the app installed on my phone and stuff. So overall I am pretty darn excited and glad my kiln is back in operation.  I won't be firing much until it warms up though. 

Anywho, thanks to everyone for all your help. 

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20 minutes ago, neilestrick said:

That controller will need the same offsets as the Dynatrol. Glad you're up and running again!

Thanks. You saved me a firing probably. I am glad to be up and running again as well. Thanks for your help good sir.

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