Marcia Selsor Posted September 25, 2017 Report Share Posted September 25, 2017 During the Sunshine Cobb demo/workshop this past weekend at the Red Lodge Clay Center, the topic of wax resist came up. One person said the Wax resist from Columbus Clay was a "game changer". in Montana, many people have used the Liquid Wax from Archie bray developed in the 1950s for Hamada's visit. I have been using Aftosa wax for several years because I can see it. Its blue. Anyone have a favorite? Marcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Fireborn Posted September 25, 2017 Report Share Posted September 25, 2017 Forbes Resist. Freaking amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bciskepottery Posted September 25, 2017 Report Share Posted September 25, 2017 Forbes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted September 25, 2017 Report Share Posted September 25, 2017 Ceramic Supply. Rinses totally clean out of brushes with just water. Never gums them up. Dries quickly and completely, not sticky. You can add food coloring to wax to make it easier to see. It takes a surprising amount to do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Campbell Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Forbes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JBaymore Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 A Luddite here. I still use hot wax. Have good hood ventilation, a good temperature controlled pan, a fire extinguisher next to it, and I watch it like a hawk. Have never found a liquid emulsion that works as well. BUT... I also do not do intricate fine-lined wax resist work. Much bolder strokes for decoration. best, .......................john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pres Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 I have used some liquids in the past, but of late mostly hot wax. I have a tendency to dip bottoms on the chalices, for a super clean edge, and like to do the same on mugs and pots with foot rings that are cut to be feet. However, everything else gets wet washed to remove glaze from bottoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 My favorite I also use paraffin in a hot pan outside-the pan is 14 inches wide and we use it for all unfooted forms. I need both types to make a living at this clay thing. I think the ceramic shop in PA has this wax still-or so I was told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graybeard Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Ceramic Supply. Neil turned me on to it, good stuff, easy cleanup Thanks Neil for the food color idea, could have used it last night! graybeard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcia Selsor Posted September 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 I have used hot wax diluted with mineral oil for a lighter coating at less heat. I have also used a variety of liquid wax. for masking I use liquid latex. I ike the edge it gives to sprayed on glazes. Thanks for all your answers. So what is Forbes wax? Marcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Fireborn Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 12 minutes ago, Marcia Selsor said: So what is Forbes wax? I don't know per say. I tried a bunch of waxes when I started. They all frustrated the crap out of me. Forbes is liquid and can be brushed and is almost instantly dried wax on the pot. It is odd because you can put it in a cup use it, then pour it back in the jar and it doesn't change consistencies. I don't know how it works. But it is beautiful. It doesn't gum up and get all nasty. Its just really nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcia Selsor Posted September 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, Joseph F said: I don't know per say. I tried a bunch of waxes when I started. They all frustrated the crap out of me. Forbes is liquid and can be brushed and is almost instantly dried wax on the pot. It is odd because you can put it in a cup use it, then pour it back in the jar and it doesn't change consistencies. I don't know how it works. But it is beautiful. It doesn't gum up and get all nasty. Its just really nice. who is the distributor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Fireborn Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Just now, Marcia Selsor said: who is the distributor? https://www.highwaterclays.com/index.cfm/category/129/waxes.cfm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Dean Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 Forbes is a great wax resist when applied to bisque clay. It dries fast and is easy to clean up. It can be somewhat hard to see when applied, so it's a good idea to add food coloring to it. However, it's not so good for applying over some glazes - it can peel away and leave a ragged edge. Sometimes thinning it with a little water can help overcome the overglaze issues. Generally though, Mobilcer and Aftosa are much better for overglaze work. I think it this is because they are petroleum based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 (Generally though, Mobilcer and Aftosa are much better for overglaze work. I think it this is because they are petroleum based) Forbes is just to thin for me-I like the thicker wax even though I thin it down with water.It makes glaze run off super well and thats a plus as its less time sponging. Moblizer is easy to see without adding anything to it.It stays on even for many weeks if needed . Since I now have a near lifetime supply wax is a non issue at least for another decade or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Fireborn Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 I have moblizer as well. I use it over glazes like you said. The forbes definitely isn't as good for that job, but it still works decently well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hantremmer Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Talking about resists, can anyone recommend a brand of shellac, ideally one that's available in the UK? Unsure if some blend of shellac/resin from a DIY place would be suitable for resist work and 'hydroabrasion' (which I believe is the term). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick White Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Any canned shellac typically used for woodworking will work, though there is no need to pay extra for the blonde/supper blonde varieties. Standard orange is fine as we don't care whether the finish will alter the natural color of the wood. An issue with shellac is it is alcohol based. You cannot wash out the brush in plain water, but must use alcohol solvent or - old painter's trick here - household cleaning ammonia for the initial cleaning of the brush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hantremmer Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Thanks, Dick. I've been looking at Jim Gottuso's work and love the depth on the pieces. https://www.instagram.com/jimgottuso/ https://ceramicartsnetwork.org/daily/pottery-making-techniques/ceramic-decorating-techniques/etched-in-clay-how-to-make-beautiful-relief-surfaces-with-shellac-resist/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clay lover Posted October 4, 2017 Report Share Posted October 4, 2017 Can Mobil wax be thinned? Mine seems to be a lot thicker than when I open the new bottle only a month or so ago. It hasn't dried well either. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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