Joseph Fireborn Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Has anyone used any of the greys for mason stains? I am looking for a nice pale grey, everything I do with 6600 and white is just too dark for what im looking for or it just isn't grey at all, more of a brown. if anything I would like it to be more greenish grey then blackish grey is that makes sense? Has anyone tried the Taupe? 6503? Probably what im looking for the most. Trying to make some sort of crackle grey glaze for some jars I am making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEP Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Are you starting with a base glaze that is already white? What makes the glaze white? That element might be affecting the stains result. If your result it too dark, try using less. My gray glaze uses a teeny amount, 0.7% stain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Fireborn Posted September 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Yea I am going to try 6600 again with a glaze that is just white from nyph syen. See if it makes a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 I used to make dentist spit sinks that where greg-I used those mason stains-you just need a small amount as Mea says. I was cone 10 in reduction. This was in the early 80's . I still have a few of those sinks in the studio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEP Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 For me, 6600 tends towards green when used in tiny amounts. I don't get a brown at all. This is in a glaze that is opacified with Talc and Neph Sy, and maybe the calcium in the Wollastonite. When used with Titanium it's even more green and towards olive green. When used with Tin it makes a very neutral gray, maybe a tiny hint of blue, and once in a while a tiny hint of pink (Chrome and Tin sometimes makes pink.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Fireborn Posted September 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 I think that is my problem. I was using it with a Tin glaze, which was making just a grey, which wasn't interesting or anything, and I think the tin made it hint brown when thin(maybe?). I am going to try the talc neph sy thing. I am trying to nail down my 5 glazes. I have 2 I really love, just gotta get 3-4 more that go well. I am trying to find some sort of faint greyish green crazed glaze and a whiteish grey glossy. Once I get those two down. I will be a lot happier. I am close, going to run a bunch of currie grid test the rest of this month to find the area I am looking for. Thanks for color's based on ingredients hues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakukuku Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Well please report back what works. I have had trouble getting greys in raku. Always tends to get greenish. We have a grey high fire but not sure the ingredients. Will check. Rakuku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEP Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Or, instead of changing your base recipe, cut back on the black mason stain and add a teensy trace of copper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaSkipper Posted September 17, 2016 Report Share Posted September 17, 2016 If you can find Mason Stain #6523 "Soft Green Grey", it may be a good answer for you. It's listed on the Mason Color website as a mix of 6% 6609 and 94% 6700. I assume they do not mix the #6523 any longer. But I still can get it at Sheffield Pottery in Sheffield, MA . http://www.sheffield-pottery.com It's is a beautiful light grey with a green cast. The color displayed on the Sheff. Pot. website is much darker than my results mixing 5% stain into porcelain slip with 10% zircopax added. I use it as a slip over porcelain and carve through designs through the slip. There is no problem with a clear glaze that has zinc. You'll find interesting info on the Mason Color website FAQ page about how to mix and troubleshoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaSkipper Posted September 17, 2016 Report Share Posted September 17, 2016 If you can find Mason Stain #6523 "Soft Green Grey", it may be a good answer for you. It's listed on the Mason Color website as a mix of 6% 6609 and 94% 6700. I assume they do not mix the #6523 any longer. But I still can get it at Sheffield Pottery in Sheffield, MA . http://www.sheffield-pottery.com It's is a beautiful light grey with a green cast. The color displayed on the Sheff. Pot. website is much darker than my results mixing 5% stain into porcelain slip with 10% zircopax added. I use it as a slip over porcelain and carve through designs through the slip. There is no problem with a clear glaze that has zinc. You'll find interesting info on the Mason Color website FAQ page about how to mix and troubleshoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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