conehead Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Who can tell me, If I glue together a piece of bisque ware and glaze it. will the glue melt before the glaze has a chance to hold it all together. I do not want it to fall apart and have piece's stuck to the shelves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conehead Posted May 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Thanks, I wanted the glaze to help fill in the cracks but I guess my only option is glaze pieces separately fire and glue latter. If you have a idea I'm all ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callie Beller Diesel Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 The glue will indeed burn out before the glaze begins to fuse. If you're that attached to the piece, your best bet is to do what you've already suggested. Either that, or remake the piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JBaymore Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Glues like this are mainly organic matter/chemistry. They decompose and burn somewhere starting around 450F. And lose adhesion before that. best, ...............john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 The amaco product called bisque fix will glue the pieces -then you glaze them on and they stay until the glaze melts elmers works fine is gravity is on your side. We use titebond wood glues to hold thumb spots on mugs that got knocked loose every week. there thumb rests would stay as they are trapped on top of handle so gravity holds them the glue makes it so we can dip them into glazes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeU Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 I don't know the chemistry, and maybe I have just been lucky, but I have been using the mixture of vinegar, karo syrup, & dry clay in equal parts (called spooze, I think) as a glue to stick pieces together-on greenware and on bisque-so far it has been great and takes on glaze beautifully. I use it on porcelain and stoneware (cone 6 electric, mostly, but have also used it for cone 10 electric). It is good for mending pieces and filling in cracks, which is it's primary purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakukuku Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 One friend who is pretty experienced used to mix some glue with some glaze and use that to fix stuff. theory was the glaze would take over when the glue melted. not sure this makes since. probably better to use a commercial mender product. rakuku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakukuku Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 One friend who is pretty experienced used to mix some glue with some glaze and use that to fix stuff. theory was the glaze would take over when the glue melted. not sure this makes since. probably better to use a commercial mender product. rakuku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcia Selsor Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 I use the snooze recipe slightly different but works well. Soak overnight about 6 ft. toilet paper over night starting with hot water....about a cup. take some slip from your clay body put it in a blender. Squeeze the tp to extract water. add to blender, add a few drops of sodium silicate, couple of tablespoons of vinegar an a little kart syrup for taste. If it is too runny, add more clay but use dry powder of your clay body and grind it up. To use: dampen both sides of the bisque really well so it is not overly absorbent. apply the snooze to both sides. and stick together quickly, hold tight til it stays. RE-BISQUE . re-fire in the bisque, then glaze fire normally. Marcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celia UK Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Karo syrup? Anyone know a UK equivalent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Celia UK Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Thank you! Will take a look in Sainsburys next time I'm in town. Molasses also not something I've seen in UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fred Sweet Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Karo syrup is a corn syrup. Comes light, dark and a couple of other varieties, which I didn't bother to investigate. As I recall, this topic was discussed several months ago, and you might want to search the archives from the main page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcia Selsor Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 I would say corn syrup. Molasses is from sugar cane. and yes this topic has appeared many times. So search the archives for more in depth information. Marcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterH Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 I would suggest that the simplest mass-market UK substitute would be golden syrup. [For US readers, a sort of colourless molasses.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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