docweathers Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 does anyone know how these are done? They were at the worthington gallery at Zion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Hey Doc I have a few friends with pots there. These are not theirs but look slip trailed high fired to me. My dentist has a few on the wall I can ask her when I get another gold crown next montn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alabama Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Hey, Some colonial potters did something like this with trailing. Their tools was a funnel with several openings to make parallel lines at once. I've seen either a video or read an article, maybe from Colonial Williamsburg.. Not sure anymore. Try searching colonial trailing pottery decorating techniques, to see what you can find. See ya, Alabama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglas Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 Something like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docweathers Posted May 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 Pretty amazing video. He has only done this a few thousand times. I cannot find much like this searching for "colonial trailing pottery decorating techniques". Would there be some other name for it? I will try making up a multi spout funnel to see if that works. Can you trade pots for gold crowns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 slip trailing and feather combing Never asked about a trade. My insurance pays 1/2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docweathers Posted May 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 Can you direct me to a video or the like on "feather combing". I assume it is what it sounds like, but could be some details to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alabama Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 Hey, You may want to order the book, Ceramics in America 2001. Then read Dots, Dashes,and Squiggles: Early English Slipware Technology, by Michelle Erickson and Robert Hunter, pgs 95 - 114. And Slip Decoration in the Age of Industrialization by Donald Carpentier and Jonathan Rickard, pgs 115 - 134 (includes info on mocha tea diffusion techniques) Both articles includes a bibliography which should keep you busy for a while.. The good kind of busy. Alabama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Min Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 hey Larry, Clive Bowen multi nozzle slip trailer here, near the bottom of the page http://discover.goldmarkart.com/10-types-ceramic-decoration/ (totally looks like something you would make) another one here, but it looks kinda awkward, scroll the up arrow to images 29-31 http://www.chipstone.org/article.php/8/Ceramics-in-America-2001/Dots,-Dashes,-and-Squiggles:-Early-English-Slipware-Technology- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docweathers Posted May 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 Min Thanks for leads to multi nozzle slip trailers. I am going to build one soon. On mocha diffusion... I am still experimenting a bit with it. I found that if I do it in my spray booth with a vaporizer pumping steam in to increase the humidity, the surface of the glaze stays damp much longer and I can get much bigger diffusions. I am in the process of throwing 30 simple 10 inch bowls to test glaze application techniques. I am sure that most of them will end up in the trash barrel, but that's the nature of experiments Pottery has too many threads to chase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docweathers Posted May 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 This has been a gold mine thread. Thanks all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preeta Posted May 26, 2016 Report Share Posted May 26, 2016 Larry my hero in these types have been Canadian potter Robin Hopper. He has a series of really helpful videos that are very helpful. i think snatches from those videos are available on youtube. his main video on surface decoration is called "Making marks". If i am not mistaken it is in fact Robin Hopper who really revived mocha diffusion to make it popular today. he has really played a lot with it trying different techniques - like tobacco and vinegar. alex matisse from east fork pottery is also very helpful to watch i've come across quite a few folk techniques of slip design but i have not figured out how they can keep the slip so liquid. i've played with slip a bit - both painting with it and using slip trailing - and wetness of the bowl makes a huge difference. with really wet clay the slip flows very easily, but with leather hard or bone dry the slip gets sucked in super fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyK Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Hey, Doc, Page 51 of the Ceramic Arts Handbook Series "Glazing Techniques" has a short description of how to make a multiple nozzle slip cup. JK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Doc I am not yet spending any time watching ceramic U-tubes it is like a busman's holiday for me so I cannot suggest any on feather combing . But I will show you a bowl from our kitchen that is made in 1984 by a at the time little known potter that lived about a mile from my pottery. Its stoneware and slip feather combed. Its 16 inch diameter and has held up well. His studio at the time was called Railroad Stoneware as he lived next to the tracks. He has written a book or two and went to grad school later in life and is currently a teacher. His name is Vince Pitelka. My tip is start looking for feathers of large birds-not on u-tube but outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docweathers Posted May 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Vince does some amazing work. you led me to his doorstep in some prior post. I have corresponded with him a little bit. He is quite helpful. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Fireborn Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Vince does some amazing work. you led me to his doorstep in some prior post. I have corresponded with him a little bit. He is quite helpful. Thanks Yea, I have seen his work on google before, it's beautiful so much to look at in his work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatsmithlady Posted June 5, 2016 Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 Interesting thread with great info and ideas....thanks everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayaldridge Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Doc, if I had to guess, the bowls you ask about might have been done by using not only slips, but slip glazes. Slip that is close to the body in terms of shrinkage and fired density rarely moves in the way those slips seem to have. Slip glazes designed to move a little in response to the fire might look very much like what you've posted. For brilliant examples of slip combing and other forms of slip manipulation, Google "English slipware" and "Thomas Toft." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preeta Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 so Ray are you saying this is all glaze work - slow moving glazes during firing - that is used in the style of slip trailing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayaldridge Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Well, I don't really know... just guessing. It might be a combination of slip in the conventional sense, and glazes. Conventional slip doesn't move much in the firing, and those pieces, to my eye at least, seem to have a lot of movement. If you look carefully at the work, it appears that on horizontal surfaces, the decorative work (resembling slip work) doesn't seem to move much, but on vertical surfaces it moves quite a lot. This is how glazes react to firing, but most slip work is as immovable as the surface of the clay. I mention slip glazes (to be used on leather-hard work) because it's a lot easier to get slip to flow on damp pots than to get glaze to flow on bisque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlady Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 preeta, i use slip a lot. yes, it needs to be used as soon as the pot is made, you can't wait until it gets dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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