Chilly Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Does anyone have experience using a tile maker like this?Peace, -Paul No I use one like this: I either dust it with talcum powder or slosh some WD40 on it. Works a treat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrgpots Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 1. Are there any restrictions on the individual tile size? 2. Do the tiles need to be the same size? 3. Do the tiles have to be square? Jed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Bridge Pottery Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 1. Are there any restrictions on the individual tile size? 2. Do the tiles need to be the same size? 3. Do the tiles have to be square? Jed No size or shape restrictions if you want to go that direction, say one square in the middle with a rectangle on each size and 4 smaller squares making up the rest. Even 9 triangles if you want I would say circles are off limits but if you want a circle make a circle It does slightly stray away from a 3 by 3 grid but I am happy for people to bend rules if they see fit. I have actually reworded the challenge post to remove the grid rule. The rules I would like to keep to would be 9 tiles that fit together with surface designs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrgpots Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 This is my initial design for the mural. Each tile will be 7'' x 10'' when wet. The picture is one I took of a 1,00 year-old bristle cone pine overlooking Cedar Breaks Monument, Utah. Jed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlady Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 jed, glad you said it was a pine, i thought your dragon was upside down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlady Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 paul, look at utube. angelica pozo shows how she makes thick terracotta tiles and keeps them flat. she has 2 books out and makes wonderful tiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazenerd Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 I pledge I will use nine pieces: but that is all I am pledging. After that, I pledge to break every rule posted. LOL My piece is called: Mountain Lake in Winter. Does it look like a body of frozen water? It will not remain square either. Nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrgpots Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 jed, glad you said it was a pine, i thought your dragon was upside down. My drawing skills need to improved. This picture was my inspiration. Jed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Fireborn Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 I plan on doing some type of ocean mural if I can find the time. Based off a mug I recently made, trying to replicate a wave: It needs a lot of improvement, but maybe I will go ahead and cut and bisque the tiles so they can be ready for when I feel my wave technique is better and closer to reality. Looking forward to this challenge, should be some amazing stuff, and lots of people joining in since rolling out a slab is something anyone with clay and a rolling pin can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Bridge Pottery Posted February 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 I pledge I will use nine pieces: but that is all I am pledging. After that, I pledge to break every rule posted. LOL My piece is called: Mountain Lake in Winter. Does it look like a body of frozen water? It will not remain square either. Nerd Only severe deformation of the rules no breaking allowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronfire Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Can this count, there are 6 sets of 9 squares with a spare row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazenerd Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Ron: Got my vote, but I am not the judge. Like the native American influence. Nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreaB Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 I've had ideas running around my head since I saw the challenge. I can do this!!! Thought of a black/white theme with carving (which I'm not good at) so the pieces will have depth to them. So onward I go. So looking forward to this, I'm aiming to do one a month as my kiln is not large and I will need to make them and glaze them individually. Any tips and tricks would be most welcome. Have a good day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiselleNo5 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Round center with 8 outer pieces radiating from it to create a circle could be interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pres Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Slab roller on the cheap- https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=A2KLqIF3qbJWgWkAkVosnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTByZWc0dGJtBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDdmlkBHZ0aWQDBGdwb3MDMQ--?p=The+Pocket+Slab+Roller%3A+A+Brilliant+Homemade+Tool+For+Making+Clay+Slabs+|+RANDY+JOHNSTON&vid=4d4ca790afd9f6ee0b3029c46eab8f24&turl=http%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOVP.Vb367e53d083d021fb8e9a1a21f6518c8%26pid%3D15.1%26h%3D168%26w%3D300%26c%3D7%26rs%3D1&rurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0cQRYgxEWqM&tit=The+Pocket+Slab+Roller%3A+A+Brilliant+Homemade+Tool+for+Making+Clay+Slabs+|+RANDY+JOHNSTON&c=0&h=168&w=300&l=384&sigr=11b83e5mm&sigt=12ogiv5aq&sigi=1312nrdip&age=1444833270&fr2=p%3As%2Cv%3Av&fr=yhs-mozilla-004&hsimp=yhs-004&hspart=mozilla&tt=b Nerd Used these sorts of sticks often at HS, but had a groove routed on the side to allow the wire cutter handles to sit in. Easier to hold, and helped to hold things in place. best, PRes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Bridge Pottery Posted February 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Can this count, there are 6 sets of 9 squares with a spare row. IMG_2449.jpg Really great tiles, I like the wavy shape but I am going to have to say, keep it to 9 tiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChenowethArts Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 OK. I'm in. This is a narrative piece, Tiler Tiller...something a little off-the-wall (so to speak). Draw your own conclusions on how a clay artist might get inspiration for texture on tile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazenerd Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Paul: The Red Cross called and said they needed you in Zimbabwe for the next six months. One down, ten more to go. nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrim8 Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Looks like fun. I'll see what i can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzine Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Love the design Paul. That would go over well in my parts. Will the tractor stick as much, from the surface, as it appears to in the profile drawing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChenowethArts Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Love the design Paul. That would go over well in my parts. Will the tractor stick as much, from the surface, as it appears to in the profile drawing? I'm not sure I understand the "stick as much" question...for sure, the tractor will be well set into the tile, scored, slipped, and probably firmed-up/reinforced with a small roll of clay. Just so you know, there is some Terra Haute, IN influence...driving to Indiana State to visit my son when he was working on his MFA gave me many hours of looking at flat, tilled land Peace, -Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazenerd Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 More useful tips for those entering the challenge. A simple way to create patterns, however simple or complex they might be is to use cheap 12 x 12 vinyl floor tiles. If you creating a larger format; they make tiles all the way up to 20' x 20" Avaialble at the big box stores from .25¢ up to a couple of bucks. Does not matter if it has a pattern on one side; draw out your patterns or pieces on the back side. As long as it does not have any glue on it; does not matter. Draw out the complete concept, or make individual pieces that are to fit together. By doing it on tile, you can cut, fit and join before you cut into your clay. Use a hair dryer, heat gun, or heat them up in your oven to warm them for easier cutting with a utility knife or exacto knife. Do not forget to factor in shrinkage for large pieces. Nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewV Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Well, I have seen some excellent tips on how to make excellent tiles in here. When I was first learning to throw bowls, I watched a fantastic but very unhelpful clip on trimming by Robin Hopper. His methods simply would not work with wonky-one-offs I made back then! Tiles and Flat Things for Beginners: Equipment: A slab roller is a non-essential piece of pottery equipment in my opinion. Wheel workers might think of it like device to help center their clay-- do you need one? Even slats are not needed for an experienced roller. The essential tool is the long rolling pin. Or just as good (if not better) is the full round curtain rods which cost ~$2/ft at Home Depot. Get about a 2 foot length. (bonus points: sand it with 400 grit paper and coat in linseed oil) Lots of work space and good wood boards are also needed. 1. Wedge and roll out 1-3 lbs of clay at a time. Start with it somewhat flat and somewhat in the final shape of your tile. Push the rolling pin down with both hand with the same amount of pressure on both sides. Work the center of the piece, not the edges. Frequently flip the clay over and rotate it 1/3 a turn. This way the direction you are pushing the clay will vary. A helpful (faster but harder) way to start is throwing the slab. I do this but still finish with the pin. If you are making square tiles, go for a squarish round. 2. Roll to the thickness you want to work with. 3/8" to 1/2" is good. Precision is not essential in the beginning! Too thin is too hard to work with. Start over. 3. There should be extra clay. Some of it can be cut away but leave about 1/2" to 1" all the way around your tile size. 4. Put the tile with a little excess clay on a non-sealed wooden surface. Wait. Roll out your other tiles. The waiting time should be 6 hours to overnight. Anyway that brings them around to the soft-leather hard stage. You can put weight on the tiles but it isn't essential. Try to avoid bending and moving the pieces. Keep them laying flat. 5. Cut to the final size. Smooth the edges. Adding a grooved backside helps prevent cracks from forming and warping. A hanging point can also be carved into the backside. 6. Add the textures and designs etc for the challenge. --- I made my tiles today so I should be mostly done tomorrow :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 One point I'd like to add to Matthew's excellent advice above, is to make sure you cut to final size when all the pieces are at the same moisture level. That can be wet, leather-hard or nearly dry, but if they are all the same then they should shrink the same. (We learn the hard way, but fortunately I learned through another's experience!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewV Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 If you cut slabs when they are wet, they will generally shrink unevenly (out of shape). For a good tile, the final cut happens when they are leather hard. My observations has been clay shrinks twice-- once from wet to leather hard and the second time in the glaze firing. There is very little size change from leather hard to bone dry to bisque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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