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#61 Roberta12

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Posted 25 February 2017 - 10:17 AM

Yes, thanks NancyLee for getting this thread going again.  I made a presentation to two third grade classes this week about Supply and Demand and Consumer and Producer.  I am a retired school employee who started a business after retirement.  My friend the third grade teacher said the students thought all businesses were BIG businesses (Walmart, large ranches, etc.)  I was impressed with what had already been taught.  The students' questions were thoughtful.  "what happens when you don't sell everything, do you mark it down?" (Blue light special)  "how much inventory do you have for a show?"  "do you make seasonal items?"  It was a good conversation and it made me think about what I am doing and the changes I have made in the last 4 years. 

 

There is a new shop opening here in my small town.  A kitchen shop.  The new owner approached me about carrying some of my work.  I was there the day she got a HUGE order of melamine dinnerware.  We did not discuss terms, wholesale, commission, or anything else, it was merely a passing conversation.   But that HUGE order of melamine stuck in my brain.  I cannot compete, nor do I want to compete, with melamine.  So, I think that is some of what I have learned, I have a better idea of where my venues will be, the places that I will be able to sell my work and actually make money.  Oh, and did I mention have fun doing it???  :rolleyes:

 

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#62 oldlady

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Posted 25 February 2017 - 10:44 AM

sure, but i do not have a cell phone.  if i am in the studio i cannot hear it so leave a message with a time to call back and a number.  it is not a cell phone.


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#63 karenkstudio

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Posted 25 February 2017 - 05:25 PM

Stick with me, I’ll get to the pottery for profit part:

I spent time during cold weather watching several Youtube videos on Day in the life of an artist.
Only found one on Day in the life of a Potter. There were a couple good videos featuring pottery in a
hand crafted series. The potters bio info and inspiration for creating plus some techniques unique to each artist is always fascinating, however the business aspect usually isn’t covered.

Perhaps someone could produce a video on A Year in the Life of a Studio Potter emphasizing the materials, space, equipment, hard work, and marketing realities of being a profitable production potter.

#64 LeeU

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Posted 26 February 2017 - 05:15 PM

Well, I just checked out the link to the NH Times geo-economic strata analyzer (it's in John B.'s post 1/16/16 in this thread) and apparently I must either move to Flint, MI to really stretch my dollars and crawl a bit higher up from the bottom (ain't happenin'), or I must become williing to get my protein from Kitty Krunch (would not exempt that from consideration), if I want to keep this clay adventure going. :rolleyes:   


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#65 Chris Campbell

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Posted 26 February 2017 - 08:05 PM

Profitable production pottery ....

Work.

You work as long as interns in any field.
You fail, you succeed, you learn, you move on.
You take victories where you find them because the hard lessons find you.

And yes, if you love it, it's just the best!
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>TRY ... FAIL ... LEARN ... REPEAT"

" If a sufficient number of people are different, no one has to be normal "

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#66 nancylee

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Posted 28 February 2017 - 05:55 PM

Profitable production pottery ....
Work.
You work as long as interns in any field.
You fail, you succeed, you learn, you move on.
You take victories where you find them because the hard lessons find you.
And yes, if you love it, it's just the best!


Yes, failure sure does find you! Just rejected for the second year in a row from a big show people say I MUST get into! This is the kind of thing that makes me realize i will not be retiring from teaching any time soon, which makes it very hard to get better at the craft. And, yes, i get rejected from small shows, too. There are just so many hours in a day, and home at 5, dinner, grading papers, maybe an hour or so of pottery, bed at midnight, up at 6. Weekends often traveling to my elderly mother's 5 hours away.
I'm exhausted. So when another rejection comes, i just want to go lie down and never look at clay or jewelry again.
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Posted 28 February 2017 - 09:57 PM

@nancylee               "Just rejected...get rejected...another rejection...".       I don't see not getting into a show, exhibit, or similar venue the same as being "rejected". That may be more "feeling" than "fact".  The fact is, there is only so much space and many factors come into play when filling those slots.  If criteria/standards need to be better met, so be it...that's what everyone has to do to work their way up the food chain (assuming there is no bribery or other potent favortism rigging the process LOL). I think we (in this case, artists) are at times too hard on ourselves, based on the perceived approval of external entities or the measurable rise in income and recognition. Then again, a properly made NY strip beats cat food anyday, so we just keep on truckin'. 


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#68 oldlady

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Posted 01 March 2017 - 10:58 PM

nancy, are you entering these shows with 2 different entries, one ceramic and one jewelry?  some shows will not let you combine the two and almost all shows have too many jewelry entries to take anyone new without some special, startling, marvelous difference from the other hundred jewelry entries trying to get into the show.


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