ivolucien Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Can you point me to any *online* suppliers of a broad range of frits? I can get common frits (e.g. 3110, 3134, 3249) locally, but not fusion F-359, F-492 or ferro FB-276-P. Seattle Pottery Supply, Tacoma Clay Arts and Georgies are no go, regardless of what SPS's out of date e-catalog claims. Fusion and Ferro haven't been able to point me at retail suppliers of their current frits. They are clearly geared toward multi-ton orders. Bonus points for an online store that takes advantage of flat rate shipping. I'm working toward as near to a bubble-free transparent glaze as possible, even when pooling thickly, cone 6-ish porcelain. Have read Parmelee, Hamer, etc. *waves cheerfully* Ivo in Seattle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Laguna in Ca (axner in Florida-same business) or bailey our big ceramic store(they use Laguna for a supplier-may be an option If you are looking for bonus points stay away from ceramics nothing is easy. Now for the bonus run- As far as flat rate shipping and Ferro frits My best suggestion for you is- USpigments.com they do both-ferro and flat rate I just had 35#S SHIPPED FOR A flat rate of 18$ if it fits it ships box Ivo -Just send me a 1#bag of unground quality coffee beans to my address at web site below my name for my bonus points Back onto the roof for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazenerd Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Mark: Back to the roof? Making our own terra-cotta roof tiles are we? Was actually asked if I could make some replacement caps. Nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denice Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 We decided to build a mailbox that went with our Spanish Mission house the extra tiles we had from the house roof were just way to big to do any thing with. So I made smaller roof, ridge and edge tiles for the mail box roof. Hoping to build it this summer, dying to try the stuccoing. Denice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Bridge Pottery Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 I'm working toward as near to a bubble-free transparent glaze as possible, even when pooling thickly, cone 6-ish porcelain. Have read Parmelee, Hamer, etc. this might interest you, lots of bubble tests - http://community.ceramicartsdaily.org/topic/12951-bubble-bubble-toil-and-trouble/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark C. Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 I replaced a hot water solar panel(4x8) that froze last week and was just finishing the install . Lots to do when you take a break from clay. I still need to clean up studio-I'll wait for a rainy day-oh thats tommorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivolucien Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Thank you Mark, I'll look into both options. And I like the running glaze effects on your mugs / color sample pictures. They remind me of tye-dye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivolucien Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Mark: Sadly none of those three suggestions list any Fusion frits, they just have the usual Ferro frits. Have you had any luck in their stocking things that aren't listed in their online catalogs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivolucien Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Ah, missed the Laguna frit PDF -- will call them tomorrow, (626) 330-0631, and report what I find here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilestrick Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 With a little searching you should be able to find a Fusion-Ferro comparison chart. Many of their formulas are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivolucien Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 You are very right Neil. I'm looking for a low alumina frit with high boron, and with roughly zero sodium, barium, zirconium and titanium. Ferro CC-263-2 is what I'm working with currently, in combination with 3249 for a low CoE version of the glaze. If I can find a source of Ferro FB-276-P-2 then I get what I need, plus most of the fluxes I want in one frit (calcium, lithium, strontium and potassium.) And Joel: Thank you, that post and its perspective on silica, bubbles and fluxes, in combination with Parmelee's "Glaze Chemisty" has been very helpful over the last few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivolucien Posted January 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Laguna clay has the frit I'm looking for in stock! Just a $4 packing fee per order, with reasonable pricing per lb, and they use flat rate shipping by default. Life is good. Thanks Mark! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcia Selsor Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 I think Fusion frits are Canadian. Check Tucker's in Canada. Here is Fusions website http://www.fusionceramics.com/ceramic-frits.cfm or if Laguna has what you need, get it there. Marcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivolucien Posted January 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Thank you Marcia. Perhaps counter-intuitively, Tucker's does not list any Fusion frits on their website, and only the most common 5 Ferro frits. I'm good with what Laguna has in stock for now, but if Tucker has stealth stock I'd be happy to hear of it. My attempts at a low surface tension / low CoE glaze might well require a different path than I'm currently walking. Cheers, and happy 2016! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlady Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 i do not know anything about glazes. i do know that you have some particular thing in mind for you to work so hard at getting the "correct" frit. if you say why you want it, some of the glaze experts here may have solved the problem you are having and give you some really good advice on how to achieve what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcia Selsor Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Forget about Tuckers and go directly to the source: Fusion. They are in Ohio. They'll even custom make a frit. Marcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick White Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 It has been a few years, but Fusion was happy to work with me on a small (for them, huge for me) order of one of their standard frits (413) that just wasn't readily available through any of the usual suspects for ceramic supplies. They charged me cost for the shipping barrel itself (not cheap) and then the UPS fee, but I got exactly what I needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivolucien Posted January 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Thank you both -- if I had more money to spend on this I could work with Fusion or Ferro directly, but they both quoted large per order fees, over $30 "repackaging" fees, even for 1 lb test samples, and neither had the option of cheaper flat rates for larger quantities. I can't pay what amounts to $8-10 per lb for frit when fees and shipping are factored in. But again, Laguna has one frit that will hopefully work out. And if I'm successful enough with my tests I might just have something interesting to publish on the subject of cone 4-7 porcelain glazes. oldlady, I'll write a post on my tests when I have something concrete to contribute. I've read a lot on the subject that other folks have already written, and want results to discuss, even, or perhaps especially, if my initial work doesn't achieve my goals. Thanks everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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