docweathers 131 Report post Posted September 8, 2015 The curator for a major juried exhibit in our area was interviewed by our local paper.Here are a couple of quotes from the interview: First, please translate these 1. " A striking example of an artist allowing her process to embrace the mismatched flaws of a digital program seeking perfection. " 2. " Yet, I feel the subject is something else entirely, maybe a reminder of the complexities of vision we take for granted as our mind seamlessly stitches the visual world back together." Second, can anyone direct me to a treatise, tutorial or the like that would help one become competent in this dialect? Though this stuff sounds like an artsy spin on psychobabble, I suspect that it is very important to describe your works to curators in this dialect if you want them to favor your work. Seriously... any suggestions would be appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evelyne Schoenmann 264 Report post Posted September 8, 2015 Seriously Gismo: do we need unintelligible sentences like these in the (art) world? When I read art critique like this, I get tooth ache..... Evelyne 2 ShellS and GiselleNo5 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bciskepottery 953 Report post Posted September 8, 2015 http://www.pixmaven.com/phrase_generator.html 4 Callie Beller Diesel, D.M.Ernst, terrim8 and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Oz 67 Report post Posted September 8, 2015 8 phill, Rae Reich, Newbie potter and 5 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evelyne Schoenmann 264 Report post Posted September 8, 2015 33333 = It should be added that the optical suggestions of the spatial relationships endangers the devious simplicity of the remarkable handling of ljght. Hilarious 1 Sharon Lea reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flowerdry 129 Report post Posted September 8, 2015 I got this: I find this work menacing/playful because of the way the optical suggestions of the figurative-narrative line-space matrix notates the substructure of critical thinking. I may actually have a piece of pottery that fits this description! PS. You have to click on http://www.pixmaven...._generator.html for this to make sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Denice 454 Report post Posted September 8, 2015 Wish I spoke art babble, skipped that class in college thought it sounded boring it's actually quite amusing. Denice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evelyne Schoenmann 264 Report post Posted September 8, 2015 The carp (oooops, wrong spelling) critiques formed by the generator are actually addicting..... 1 Judith B reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
docweathers 131 Report post Posted September 8, 2015 As much nonsense as this stuff is, I seriously believe that at some level it is a dialect that when addressed to curators, it will make them like your work better. ... and thus include your work in their exhibits. As Evelyne points out, these phrases are addicting and curators are serious addicts. You may do well to feed these gatekeeper's habit... if you want to become a famous artist. I would really like to find a systematic way to test this hypothesis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiselleNo5 485 Report post Posted September 8, 2015 So, write an actual description if your work, then deconstruct it word by word with a Thesaurus in hand. Choose the word that is most high-falutin' (the opposite of what I just did there). It doesn't even have to make sense, really .... most artists'statements with this kind of language don't really make sense either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karenk 12 Report post Posted September 8, 2015 ......" embrace the mismatched flaws of a digital program..." This quote conjures up images of a sledged hammer mangled computer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRankin 186 Report post Posted September 8, 2015 I just spent the last 20 minutes punching in 5 digit numbers and reading all the responses and I think I'm beginning to understand it. I'll be ready for my next juried exhibit. Paul 1 Evelyne Schoenmann reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
docweathers 131 Report post Posted September 8, 2015 I think it is sledged hammered language.This thing has caught my interest. Attached is a pdf of the seminalresearch on International Art English, IAE. I think it is something thatartists, not just art critics, need to speak... If you want to talk to winthe favor of the gatekeepers of the art world. International Art English - Triple Canopy.pdf International Art English - Triple Canopy.pdf 1 Pieter Mostert reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cavy Fire Studios 321 Report post Posted September 8, 2015 I had a freaking awesome art instructor named Tom Askman who has the word for this speech: Bloviation. Bloviating. Bloviate. It's essentially using big, smart-people words to describe the vast impact of the cornucopia of nothing. That's Art with a capital "A" for you!! Example: Normal word: "Rabbit." Bloviated rabbit: *clears throat and puts on a beret with matching infinity scarf and sipping Starbucks* "The creature we perceive as that of lagomorphic physicality in actuality goes beyond of mere human psychoanalytic ken; rather its presence stands as a keenly metaphoric balance between that which is to be preyed upon to sacrifice for the needs of the many, or the epic and eternal struggle for survival and procreation." ... ...LMFAO 3 Evezamora, Callie Beller Diesel and SydneyGee reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Coyle 113 Report post Posted September 8, 2015 Sad to say, we have a local art magazine here in Santa Fe that publishes critiques that are even less coherent than those created by the five digit generator. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cavy Fire Studios 321 Report post Posted September 8, 2015 WAO. What the heck are they speaking, Sanskrit?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chilly 583 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 When I was an IT trainer/courseware writer I had a sticker on my monitor: "Why use a big word when a diminutive expression will do?" Perhaps it should have said "Why use one ordinary word when 35 mismatched words will do?" Now I know why I'm not an artist. 2 Evelyne Schoenmann and TJR reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Oz 67 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 I must concretize this and give you an answer on an indeterminate date. 1 Cavy Fire Studios reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Callie Beller Diesel 1,346 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 Oh Ze Frank, how I love you!!! Thank you Matt, that made my day! My first thought was also to post the crit generator, but many others were faster. 1. " A striking example of an artist allowing her process to embrace the mismatched flaws of a digital program seeking perfection. " read, "The artist does not appear to be capable of looking past their method of working. The artist appears to be using a formula of some kind to get to an end result that a formula can't achieve." (Also read, "I think this artist is barking up the wrong tree, and it's kind of funny to watch. In a non-hierarchical sense, of course.") 2. " Yet, I feel the subject is something else entirely, maybe a reminder of the complexities of vision we take for granted as our mind seamlessly stitches the visual world back together." Read, "This reminds me of something. Gimme a minute....nope. Lost it." (Also read, "That blotch reminds me I need to pick up milk and the drycleaning.") Not all "critical writing" is critical in a useful way. I too lack an MFA for a reason. 2 Min and ChenowethArts reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Callie Beller Diesel 1,346 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 Aaaand this is what the generator gave me for my (modified) birthday digits of 14176 "With regard to the issue of content, the reductive quality of the sexual signifier notates the essentially transitional quality." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evelyne Schoenmann 264 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 I just spent the last 20 minutes punching in 5 digit numbers and reading all the responses and I think I'm beginning to understand it. I'll be ready for my next juried exhibit. Paul See?!! I told you it's addicting Thanks to Gismo and bciske we all will be expert art babbling jurors in no time.... Evelyne PS: I just read Diesel's translation of Gismo's first question. Now, Diesel, be a real friend and post that link to the "Art Babble Generator Translator" please!! ( ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
docweathers 131 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 IAE sounds very similar of the "word salad" that bright schizophrenicssometimes make. If you listen to them casually, it sounds like it makessense, but if you listen closely, you cannot make any sense of it.Also, I was thinking about why some people look at these jabberings as aform of wisdom and insight... think of the babbling of the Delphi Oracle orthe I Ching. Both provide a kind of wisdom/seeing like a Rorschach, byloosening your cognitive structures so that you can more easily projectyour own wisdom/insight/aesthetic appreciation on the subject. So, maybecritics do not describe the art but jumble our normal view of an object tohelp us see it in a new way, in a way that we already knew but was not conscious... a la the I Ching.Thus, instead of some IAE, a few lines from the I Ching might work as well.I am working on a research project to test some of these ideas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pres 1,635 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 Even though it has been many years since I last read it, Fountainhead had several discussions of the tastes of the times including these bloated expressions of what is good and proper for society as opposed to the artistic expression of the individual. Even then, there is very little to say about a piece of work, interpreting the artists intent in so many words that say so little, that are so politically correct, innocuous, non threatening and un-contributing other than to raise the critique to an intellectual level that the critic creates a new piece of work in the critique itself. Exhausting! 1 flowerdry reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Callie Beller Diesel 1,346 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 Sorry Evelyne, it's not a translator program. I'm fluent in rambling, semantics, blovification and I have a working knowledge of bull$hit. 1 Evelyne Schoenmann reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Min 1,755 Report post Posted September 9, 2015 IAE sounds very similar of the "word salad" that bright schizophrenics sometimes make. If you listen to them casually, it sounds like it makes sense, but if you listen closely, you cannot make any sense of it. Perhaps curators share a personality trait with schizophrenics. I wonder how receptive a curator fluent in jabbering would be to someone trying to have a discourse with them in the same dialect. 1 Mudslinger Ceramics reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites