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I have seen and been part of discussions about art and clay that have degenerated into mediocre slams on both sides. I would like to open a discussion on what makes a clay pot more than the sum of it's parts. Is it an illusion that there are artist that rise above the production genre, that make pieces that even the untrained eye recognizes it's artistic merit? With so much hype about emerging artist and the wish to leave the constraint of form and function for some new vision, where is the common sense line of design and art, or is there one? Though I won't be able to go to this talk the information below might spark some interest and comments. http://ncclayclub.blogspot.com/2014/07/alex-matisse-free-talk-at-bascom-in.html Is the production potter destined, either by choice or chance, only to live in production. Is the university trained potter, destined to live in an academic clay circle? Are the prices the public is willing to pay either exclude or include either group? I hope this elicits some deeper insights into where clay, as a expressive medium ,lives in the real day to day world. Wyndham