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  1. Patrick

    Used fire brick changed my plans

    Floor's in. Going to be a catenary arch. 45"w x 60"h x 36"d (inside measurements). I appreciate everyone's comments on the advisability or lack thereof of this kiln type and of my construction materials. ... But I just gotta build one! It's what a kiln is supposed to look like! I wouldn't be happy if I didn't. It's the same reason I once bought a 28 year old Peterbilt instead of a 5 year old Freightliner. It was what a truck was supposed to look like! Granted, I got older and sold that piece of crap ... but still! I'm sure some of you understand. OBTW - Gas company put in 1 1/4" service line. So much for 2". That will still be enough btu's though. Well, I'm off to run gas to my shop and hook up my gas stove before freezing weather sets in. Y'all have a good rest of your weekend.
  2. Patrick

    Used fire brick changed my plans

    Thanks for the photos Mark. They are worth more than a thousand words, for sure. How's your arm, by the way? Hope it's healing quickly. Poured my slab (6'x6') this weekend, as we had a little warm spell. It's under insulation now to cure, as we will have some cold snaps before it is done curing. I have decided on the type of kiln I will be building, which I will go more into later. I've got to run, but wanted to keep you abreast of my progress. Next up will be digging a trench from the slab all the way to the meter (hahaha!) and getting pipe installed - maybe next weekend, weather permitting. OBTW: Got and read Nils Lou's The Art of Firing. Lots of good things in there. Thanks for the recommendation. Hope you all had/are having a good weekend.
  3. Patrick

    Looking to buy a pottery wheel for a beginner

    Might keep an eye on govdeals.com - a government (think public schools - art departments) auction site. I just snagged 2 Klopfenstein treadle wheels and a spray booth/cabinet for $150 yesterday. You have to look regularly every 2 weeks or so.
  4. Patrick

    Used fire brick changed my plans

    You can look at the above photo of the meter and dog and kiln shed wall. ... 8 feet maybe? Just bought the pipe wrap. Thank you sir. I can put my mullet back under my ball cap and the rubberized undercoating back on the shelf. ... Whew. Thought I was gonna show some true colors there for a minute!
  5. Patrick

    Used fire brick changed my plans

    I know. Crazy. I was at least expecting them wanting plastic pipe with a metal riser. I don't think they would mind if I did plastic/metal riser. The way he was talking, I'm thinking he was trying to help me out and keep it simple. Might also have to do with the availability of 2" plastic/metal riser - i.e. Home Depot here is only showing 1" plastic. May go redneck and spray it with rubberized undercoating or something like that if I go with steel.
  6. Patrick

    Used fire brick changed my plans

    I know! It's exciting! The bad thing is I haven't put anything in stone yet (pun, anyone?) and I feel like a dog walking in circles trying to find the perfect spot to lay down.
  7. Patrick

    Used fire brick changed my plans

    Welcome to Smiths Grove, KY. Set your watch back 20 years. On a serious note, my guess is because the shed is so darn close. Very well could be that it should be.
  8. Patrick

    Used fire brick changed my plans

    I actually think I am going to pour a concrete pad this weekend, and weather permitting, I may dig a trench and plan what I'll need. Gas company guy said he would like to see regular ol' threaded steel pipe buried about 6 inches or so (!!!!!) with an flexible connector on the kiln side of the pipe. His wish is my command. Whatever gets the meter in. Definitely going home improvement store threaded pipe with that short of a run. 2" for sure. I'm thinking about running a T into my studio (above grade per code, of course)for a small gas stand alone fireplace to keep clay from freezing this winter. Last year I disliked playing the game of "take what you throw in the house to dry , and re-wedge the clay you just wedged yesterday because re-froze". I'd be happy with a nice constant 45 degrees or so. Just enough to keep water fluid. Now if I could just figure out where I want this darned pad poured...
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    Used fire brick changed my plans

    My pooch (actually, my wife's pooch, but we know how that goes ) checking out the gas company's installation. Thought they were going to put it outside the fence, but they changed their minds. Cool. Now I just need to run my pipe inside the kiln shed and they will install the meter. I know what I'll be doing this weekend. One step at a time.
  10. Patrick

    Uneven temperature Minnesota flat topkiln

    J.T. Abernathy in MI had burners half way up the kiln also. His theory was put the heat where you need it. Supposedly a 30% decrease in fuel usage as opposed to similar kiln - actually as compared to Marc Ward's numbers. Would be interesting to see one with and one without and see the difference. Hmmm. I feel an empirical data collection moment coming on... If you added a burner up half way up, theoretically it would only have to increase the cost of firing by the additional electricity to run the blower. Making an additional burner would be in initial outlay, but if it cut costs, just a matter of time for break-even and then savings. ... Just brainstorming for ya.
  11. Patrick

    Used fire brick changed my plans

    Gas company just came and we agreed on a meter location ... just on the other side of the chain link fence next to my shed!!! I have a 10 foot trench to dig to run my line!! That makes me smile. I was keeping fingers crossed that they wouldn't insist on putting it next to house meter for some off the wall reason(100 feet away). They did say it would be a few weeks before they would have it installed though, but I ain't complaining. They are going to put in a 415 CFH meter, and said it could be opened up to provide 600k btu per hour (which I also read somewhere else that meter is capable of that). Not a bad day.
  12. Patrick

    Used fire brick changed my plans

    Half way. Photo is made from the west facing east. Our prevailing winds/storms come from west/southwest. Eventually, I'd like to put up some sliding doors on front and rear, then anything smaller than an EF-2 would be a non-issue.
  13. Patrick

    Kiln still stalling

    If it were me, I would take the 12" WC regulator off and leave it off and replace the one at the tank with an adjustable high pressure regulator. You're firing manual anyway, so it's not like you won't be watching it. Talk about being able to fine tune your pressure and your air flaps... it'll be a whole different level of control. I think you'd appreciate it. BUT (and it's a big but!) the quicker you let the fuel out, the quicker a tank will freeze up. Ergo, on you next firing, have a 20 pound tank on hand. If you do an Amazon search for "adjustable high pressure regulator propane", you'll get a good idea of what you're looking for. Also - was thinking of this today at work - regulators can freeze up also. Does either of your regulators get icy? Not just cold with condensation, but icy? That can also put a kink in the works. EDIT: If the 5 pound is adjustable, just take the 12" WC one off and see what you can do. No purchase necessary.
  14. Patrick

    Used fire brick changed my plans

    Done enough for right now. I'll move my smaller propane conversion kilns in there sometime this week and hopefully bisque this weekend. Gravel and a concrete pad are on the to-do list. Gas company is coming by to talk about meter placement in the next few days. ... One foot in front of the other. Pick 'em up and put 'em down.
  15. Patrick

    Kiln still stalling

    Linda, just as a point of reference, according to Ward Burners Kiln Cubic Feet and BTUs, if your kiln has 9" of insulating brick (the soft brick), you need approximately 10,000 btu per cubic foot of kiln space per hour. You have an 8 cubic foot kiln. That's approximately 80,000 btus per hour to hit cone 6 (APPROXIMATELY). I haven't checked the orifice size chart, but here it is for your reference. At 11" WC (I know you have 12" so 11" should be fine), you would need an orifice size of at least 7/64" (for only one burner!) to put out that many btus at that pressure(11" WC). ... That is unless you increase the pressure (which was why I brought up adjustable high pressure regulators in previous post). More pressure = more fuel = more btu/hour through same orifice. Don't go voiding warranties or blowing stuff up though! Make sense?
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